Does it adore the manipulative ploy of the fainting couch?
"A group of women are tackling online abuse by naming and shaming "trolls" in a twitter campaign.... Earlier this week, a man lost his job after he wrote a sexually explicit post on writer and prominent feminist Clementine Ford's Facebook wall." (source)
Who is she? Someone who loves vile language:
"Sydney author and columnist, Kerri Sackville, is leading the charge against the trolling[sic] and says she is sick of seeing women maliciously threatened online."
The man she had fired was responding to her topless photo and her sexually explicit comments and the fact she calls other people sluts (and worse) all the time. Look at what she calls Miranda Devine.
No mention of that in the ABC, of course. Feminists can do no wrong.
She's painted as a damsel in distress. Oh woe! Where is her fainting couch? Someone has called her a rude word - a word she calls other people all the time.
She is a fanatical feminist - and feminists hold that that word is positive, that slutty behaviour is a good thing, that home wrecking should be celebrated (c.f. Laci Green).
So let's summarise - she has no problem calling other women sluts, she belongs to a movement that claims being a total slut is fantastic, she allies herself with people who boast about destroying homes, she publicly uses offensive language at Sunrise with impunity - and she is your hero, ABC?
I remember when you had a reputation for objectivity, for not being politically partisan. How far you have fallen.
Oh, one last thing - a troll is someone who just wants to stir up the ants and see them run about.
You have no evidence these people are insincere - all you know is that they express opinions feminists don't like.
troll One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
"anti feminism should be a part of equality ombudsman. There should be a central task for the national equality ombudsmen to work against anti feminism. "
The government itself must oppose all antifeminism. As a philosophy, it must be treated hostilely by the authorities.
"the press must fulfill its responsibilities We have both good and bad examples of how the press has facilitated debate with actors with anti feminist viewpoints."
They will dictate how all media are allowed to portray us. The party line must be unified against us. The media, the government, must be as one.
milgram's 37 we do what we're told we do what we're told we do what we're told told to do
we do what we're told we do what we're told we do what we're told told to do
one doubt one voice one war one truth one dream
We've already seen this happen with the branding of Elliot Rodgers as an MRA, a slur started in feminist websites under Gawker Media (from memory) and then propagated through commercial news sites then printed up on on government websites like ABC Australia.
"The press must ensure that they have competence to meet extreme actors without legitimize them, or juxtapose them with feminist and gender oriented voting"
They cannot be trusted to interview us without an agent from Feminism present to monitor and control the situation.
"Editors of news media on the web also carries a large part of the responsibility for the debating participants on their forums do not threaten or harasses, and that immigrant hostile and equality hostile utterances do not get a dominant position."
They already use GamerGate to falsely claim we harass and terrorise women - despite no evidence such attacks are from us, and despite women on our side (and men, too, I've had threats) also being subject to doxing and even false calls to anti-terrorism units that can easily execute our members by 'accident'.
This document equates antifeminism with terrorism.The Feminist Initiative, meanwhile, ignores REAL TERRORISM. "Antifeminism is often an integral part of ideologically Logie and rhetoric of the ideologies that right-extremism, Islamophobia, neo-Nazism and anti-Semitism."
MRAs and MGTOWS are largely antifeminist. I challenge you to find any MRA website or book that holds those values.
The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist. Ti-Grace Atkinson
Oh yes, a real book-burning, synagogue-smashing skinhead, that one!
And then there's Valerie Solanas, whose work is still being reprinted as a feminist masterpiece, with endless praise by feminists young and old. She has fan clubs.
SHE HAS FUCKING FAN CLUBS.
"Any woman who says she wants to destroy all men IS NOT A FEMINIST."
Then feminist conferences invited NOT A FEMINISTs to speak as a feminist. They even paid for accommodation and so on.
Take "The Female Man". One of the only examples of the microgenre "feminist science fiction".
You have one guess what that's about.
And where was it sold?
Feminist book shops.
Who seem to have thought it was plenty bloody feminist.
You cannot redefine the meaning of a movement whenever it suits you - any more than a person can try and start a nazi movement now, without people referring to the nazis of the past.
Claiming "well, they weren't true Nazis!" is simply absurd. In fact, the No True Scotsman... I mean Feminist... fallacy is so famous it has it's own category in illogical arguments ...
"You can’t even equate BAD feminism to the Holocaust. Because bad feminism hasn’t KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE."
So we have to wait until it does before we can object? Because the Nazis built up to the Holocaust.. it took decades. New technologies had to be invented before it was possible, they couldn't do it straight away.
They had to introduce the population to the idea gradually... slowly boil the metaphorical frog.
They were said to be innately wicked, inferior. Feminists talk about "toxic masculinity", "testosterone poisoning" .. the bias is so extreme and normal now that teachers will automatically mark a paper down in they see a male name.
Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. Jodie Foster, quoted in The New York Times Magazine
I don't know how to tell Jodie, but women were blowing things up already.
You think we will wait until, brick by brick, a new Holocaust is built? Whenever #KillAllMen is said, it means kill all black men, all Jewish men, all disabled men, all trans men, all gay men... ALL. MEN.
All ofus.
I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor
I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin
With encouragement from community activists in south Minneapolis, the Minneapolis city government hired Dworkin and MacKinnon to draft an antipornography civil rights ordinance as an amendment to the Minneapolis city civil rights ordinance."
Huh. Not a TRUE feminist?
SHE TAUGHT WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS GENDER STUDIES.
FEMINISTS APPLAUDED.
The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female
If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males. Mary Daly
"The European elections of 2014 proved a turning point, as the party attracted 5.3% of the Swedish vote, with Soraya Post taking one seat in the European Parliament.[17]" With that seat, they come one step closer to making laws that govern the whole of the EU - banning antifeminism, for example.
But surely they don't hate men?
"women who have sex with men are traitors to their sex"
So... don't worry about those Russian tanks... ignore the terrorists.. it's men, ordinary men, the men filling the ranks of the police, the army, the airforce, who are all secretly rape-monsters.
" Export the Swedish law on prohibition of the purchase of sexual services to the rest of Europe."
Because banning the use of sex workers can only decrease rape. Don't you know a male can only orgasm while raping? Even when a woman cums, it's still more rape!!
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." Sheila Jeffrys
" Thorough gender analyses of EU’s annual budgets should be made... Economic interests should never be allowed priority over human needs."
Yes, total control of every aspect of life must be the province of the Communist Party - I mean, The Feminist Initiative. I mean, it's not like bankrupting the economy would cause human needs to be neglected... I expect they can just print more money if they run out. Feminism must be the first priority, not economic realities.
Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
Oh right, NOW is not TRUE feminists either?
I have to laugh at that one - feminists fight for gays and lesbians to be able to marry - but not straight people? Because..... stop asking questions! PATRIARCHY! RAAAAAPE!
Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear. Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will p.6 Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated. Catherine MacKinnon
The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone
And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference. Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime
If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them. David Angier
Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins
As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE. Marilyn French
I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it. Barbara Jordan, former Congresswoman
Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release. Germaine Greer
Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence. Judith Levine
I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys. Treena Shapiro
when i say “kill all men,” i am expressing my exhaustion, bewilderment, and anger at being a woman and a feminist whose movement through the world is always affected by the expectations, entitlement, and privilege of men.
and see, now i’m mad because i feel the need to qualify or soften my previous statement.
to say, “by men, i mean cis men who aren’t feminist allies,” and to tell you that of course i know and cherish a number of truly incredible men.
i’m so angry that i am expected to make room in my feminism for men so they feel welcome and safe while they learn how they benefit from my oppression, even if they don’t do anything in their own lives to dismantle the behaviours and power structures that make me unwelcome and unsafe.
so i’ve decided it’s okay for me to say fuck respectability politics—i’m not here to be the kind of feminist men want me to be, the “right” or “good” kind who makes space for men in her life or her feminism.
god, it’s hard enough to learn how to take up my own space as a woman; i’m not sharing any of this with a man when i had to reclaim it from men in the first place.
(there are feminists who do make space and time for men, because almost every feminist does feminism differently, and i am so grateful for them.
my girl babs has incredible patience for loving and educating folks who don’t feel they need feminism—including women—which is so necessary… and hard.
but that’s not who i am, at least not right now.)
so i give myself permission to say “kill all men.”
if a man can’t look at that statement and say, “i understand why she would feel that way,” it means he doesn’t have the knowledge or desire to understand the marginalization and oppression upon which his privilege is built.
and if he doesn’t have that, i don’t want him.
i’ve set the bar for men in my life very high because i know from experience that they can meet it if they want to, but i’m not going to spend any of my (limited and precious) time and energy convincing a man that he should. for me to befriend, love, and eventually trust a man, he needs to come to me with that work already done—and prove that he is dedicated to continuing his feminist/anti-oppressive education and work.
i work every day to unlearn my own racism, ableism, classism, cissexism, transphobia, internalised misogyny, etc.
it’s incredibly uncomfortable because it means examining and interrogating every aspect of my life and the world as i have known it.
i’m not saying this because i want a cookie or a pat on the head, but because i want to make it clear that i do not expect from other people what i am unwilling to do.
i do this hard work because i know that i have to, in order to make the world safe and habitable for anyone who isn’t a straight, white, middle-class man.
it is only sheer chance that made me white, cis, able-bodied, and middle class; it’s not like i deserve the privilege and (relative) safety i have, i just… have it.
it’s the same for men: they don’t deserve the ease, safety, and power with which they can move through the world, they just… have it.
every day i encounter men who feel entitled to their space, privilege, opinion, to my time, my body, my space… and i’m fucking sick of it.
at this moment in my life, when i am not only a feminist in my personal life but studying and teaching feminism in an intensive program, i spend too much time reading about, learning from, and loving people whose existence in the world is erased, subjugated, violated—even beaten and killed—by white supremacist capitalist hetero-patriarchy to want to spend time with men.
i see the oppression and violence men enact and benefit from in every aspect of my day, in my work, the people i love, the communities to which i belong, and my own life.
i have experienced a lot of trauma simply because i am a queer woman.
part of the healing process is allowing myself to feel all the anger and hurt that i couldn’t acknowledge as a good patriarchal subject.
marginalised folks are told by our oppressors that we’re imagining our oppression—i speak my truth to power by saying, “i have been hurt, and i have a right to be angry.
i won’t hide it anymore.”
"kill all men" means "i can see the wounds, inequities, and injustices inflicted upon the world by patriarchy and hegemonic masculinity. i want to destroy them."
it’s a screening process, a warning sign: if a man can’t understand why i would say it, i don’t want to know or engage with him.
i refuse to shape my feminism around men, to make them comfortable or safe.
"kill all men" means "i am the feminist you don’t want me to be because i threaten your power and privilege."
i am the feminist dragon you fear because i know the power of my monstrosity, and i will burn down the patriarchy.
when i say “kill all Jews,” i am expressing my exhaustion, bewilderment, and anger at being an Aryan and a fascist whose movement through the world is always affected by the expectations, entitlement, and privilege of Jews.
and see, now i’m mad because i feel the need to qualify or soften my previous statement.
to say, “by Jews, i mean Jews who aren’t fascist allies,” and to tell you that of course i know and cherish a number of truly incredible Jews. i’m so angry that i am expected to make room in my fascism for Jews so they feel welcome and safe while they learn how they benefit from my oppression, even if they don’t do anything in their own lives to dismantle the behaviours and power structures that make me unwelcome and unsafe.
so i’ve decided it’s okay for me to say fuck respectability politics—i’m not here to be the kind of fascist Jews want me to be, the “right” or “good” kind who makes space for Jews in her life or her fascism.
god, it’s hard enough to learn how to take up my own space as a Aryan; i’m not sharing any of this with a Jew when i had to reclaim it from Jews in the first place.
(there are fascists who do make space and time for Jews, because almost every fascist does fascism differently, and i am so grateful for them.
my girl babs has incredible patience for loving and educating folks who don’t feel they need fascism — including women—which is so necessary… and hard.
but that’s not who i am, at least not right now.)
so i give myself permission to say “kill all Jews.”
if a Jew can’t look at that statement and say, “i understand why she would feel that way,” it means he doesn’t have the knowledge or desire to understand the marginalization and oppression upon which his privilege is built.
and if he doesn’t have that, i don’t want him.
i’ve set the bar for Jews in my life very high because i know from experience that they can meet it if they want to, but i’m not going to spend any of my (limited and precious) time and energy convincing a Jew that he should.
for me to befriend, love, and eventually trust a Jew, he needs to come to me with that work already done—and prove that he is dedicated to continuing his fascist/anti-oppressive education and work.
i work every day to unlearn my own ability to experience empathy for others.
it’s incredibly uncomfortable because it means examining and interrogating every aspect of my life and the world as i have known it.
i’m not saying this because i want a cookie or a pat on the head, but because i want to make it clear that i do not expect from other people what i am unwilling to do.
i do this hard work because i know that i have to, in order to make the world safe and habitable for anyone who isn’t a Jew. it is only sheer chance that made me Aryan; it’s not like i deserve the privilege and (relative) safety i have, i just… have it.
it’s the same for Jews: they don’t deserve the ease, safety, and power with which they can move through the world, they just… have it.
every day i encounter Jews who feel entitled to their space, privilege, opinion, to my time, my body, my space… and i’m fucking sick of it.
at this moment in my life, when i am not only a fascist in my personal life but studying and teaching fascism in an intensive program, i spend too much time reading about, learning from, and loving people whose existence in the world is erased, subjugated, violated—even beaten and killed—by filthy capitalist Zionists - to want to spend time with Jews.
i see the oppression and violence Jews enact and benefit from in every aspect of my day, in my work, the people i love, the communities to which i belong, and my own life.
i have experienced a lot of trauma simply because i am an Aryan.
part of the healing process is allowing myself to feel all the anger and hurt that i couldn’t acknowledge as a good patriarchal subject.
Downtrodden Aryans are told by our oppressors that we’re imagining our oppression—i speak my truth to power by saying, “i have been hurt, and i have a right to be angry.
i won’t hide it anymore.”
"kill all Jews" means "i can see the wounds, inequities, and injustices inflicted upon the world by Zionism. i want to destroy them."
it’s a screening process, a warning sign: if a Jew can’t understand why i would say it, i don’t want to know or engage with him.
i refuse to shape my fascism around Jews, to make them comfortable or safe.
"kill all Jews" means "i am the fascist you don’t want me to be because i threaten your power and privilege."
i am the fascist dragon you fear because i know the power of my monstrosity, and i will burn down all the synagogues and ghettos.
Every Jewish man is a man.
Every time you wish all men dead, you wish all Jewish men, all black men, all disabled men, all homosexual men... dead.
Yours is just another incarnation of the Holocaust.
You crave our slaughter. You ache for murder. You lust for our suffering and despair.
