Vaginas steal spotlight? That's some feat!

http://independentcollegian.com/2015/03/17/community/vaginas-steal-spotlight-women-take-the-stage-during-the-vagina-monologues-to-talk-about-shared-expereinces/

"Vagina — a word usually spoken in a hushed voice or for strictly clinical purposes "

Rubbish. It's said in the same way as penis, but infinitely more often. Sometimes I think Feminists should just call themselves Vaginists and get it over with.


“The stories range from happy and humorous experiences to more somber experiences such as rape, assault and abuse"

Like the "Good Rape" one - the one you lot like to sweep under the carpet. Claiming that lesbian rape inoculates children against heterosexuality is not something we want publicly known, it would seem.


"Vagina is seen as a bad word" ... like penis is. It's talking about sex, which is generally frowned on. Nonetheless, i can expect to hear it on daytime television without anyone getting upset about it.

"any TV show, music video or movie can say coward, prick, creep and degrade men without us second-guessing it”

Oh sorry - you didn't say that. You omitted it - because that would interfere with your victim narrative. You think only women get gendered abuse? What garbage!


Some of their responses included, “Who doesn’t love vaginas?”

Gay men, at a wild guess?

 “because it’s tight”

If only!

 “some women are not ‘allowed’ to.”

 Really? How shocking? In the countries feminism has influence over? Name one? Describe how you are going to actually do something to change this. No? Nothing? thought so.

 "My vagina is angry"

 No, it literally isn't. Your brain is in the head, and that's the bit that does the feeling for you. Really, you feminists seem to have some form of collective brain damage.

 “You’re not hearing a lot of people ranting"

 Well, for one think, it's not 'people', it's women - and yes, it's a bloody long rant by any measure.

 "Besides being an outlet for feminine expression" (so long as it conforms to the current vision of Feminism)

 "a local cause that deals with domestic violence"

 By fighting against shelters for men, and by portraying it exclusively as a crime of men against women, despite the fact it is usually reciprocal and often female initiated. She hits him, he hits back, she calls the cops, he goes to jail. Yay, equality!...?

 " works for the empowerment of feminists" (fixed that for you).

 “Feminism is not just equality for women, but equality for everybody…"

 No, it literally is not. For that to work, it would have to work for men, instead of against them. It would work for gender neutral rape laws, instead of redefining rape in such a way that women who rape are hidden from FBI statistics, it certainly wouldn't work to give immunity for them in Israel and India, and for god's sake, how the hell can you look at the story of Erin Pizzey and decide feminism is anything but a gender supremacist form of fascism?

 It claims it is for equality. Talk's cheap. Feminism never DOES equality. It's a lobby group for feminists. That's it.

 "if you believe in the equality for everybody, then you are a feminist”

 In the same way if you believe in paid annual leave you are a national socialist.

 This is an emotionally manipulative argument. It's used by all sorts of religions to try and guilt and confuse people into joining. You care about the poor? You're a Christian! You believe kids should respect their parents? You're a Confucionist. You can't say no. We won't let you. Our movement is for everybody. We will force it on you regardless of consent...

The dark secret of "The Vagina Monologues" and female rape denial

I've noticed there seems to be a strong effort to destroy all existing copies of the original work. I used to see the idea that girls needed to be 'inoculated' against heterosexual activity in a lot of feminist literature.

One work as Sydney Uni disturbingly combined it with breastfeeding, and advocated lesbian infantile incest as the weapon against the Patriarchy.

Of course, when I bring it up with feminists who claim that "feminism is just about the idea women are human beings", they either deny it exists, or claim it was second wavers and totally doesn't count, or say "they aren't true Scotsmen... err.. feminists!"

Is Eve Ensler not a 'true' Feminist? Then why does she get invited to Feminist panels?

Reblogged from Jung's Endless Shadow which I highly recommend!

lushpuppy: Started and finished The Vagina Monologues last night. Fucking brilliant. It made me all excited about the possibility of staging/directing a V-day too.

jungs-endless-shadow: Will you include the scene where a lesbian pedophile seduces a 13 year old girl with alcohol, with the victim later saying “If it was rape, it was a good rape?”

lushpuppy: In the copy that I have, that line wasn’t in there at all. [Brett Caton's note: it was quietly erased when non-feminists pointed it out, yet the question remains - why the hell was it there?]

I’m obviously aware of that paedophilia in that point, but my copy mentioned nothing about ‘good rape’. Because that obviously doesn’t exist. And yes, if I put it on I would include that monologue, they are all just as important as each other.

jungs-endless-shadow: Then you have one of the versions where it was censored. Seriously, check it out - the “good rape” line was in the original. In light of this apparently pedophilia-condoning monologue, by the way, can you tell me how you feel about the monologue in which young girls are asked intimate questions about their vaginas? And I would like to know why a work that romanticizes rape can be considered ‘brilliant.’

lushpuppy: It doesn’t romanticise rape, Ensler wrote what the women whom she interviewed told her. She was telling stories, and she did that well. I think the fact that the monologues speak about rape more than once is a positive thing.

That monologue was about a woman who was so detached from herself and her sexuality that she never developed, as such, she wasn’t fully aware of what had happened to her and why it was wrong - she was groomed. It is not condoning paedophilia, it’s simply including the story.

Monologues are supposed to be highly personal, and they are supposed to make the audience think. I don’t think anyone would read or listen to that monologue (in which the woman talks about being raped more than once) and think that the paedophile was behaving ‘correctly’ or wasn’t a paedophile.

'Intimate questions is debatable - asking a girl 'what would your vagina wear if it could?' has absolutely fuck all paedophilic about it. It's about opening discourse with people of all ages about their vagina's, to make it less taboo, to make people less afraid and ashamed of their own autonomy, and to have people embrace their body.

If a six year old girl talking about the fact that she has a vagina seems inappropriate to you, then you should really think about the way you’ve been conditioned to think. It’s not fucking sexual. You are making it sexual. You are presuming that a child cannot talk about a part of her body without it being sexualised. There is nothing dirty about a kid talking about a fucking vagina.

It doesn’t romanticize rape? It describes a young rape victim referring to her rape at the hands of a pedophile as something healing, and describes it as a “good rape.” If that’s not romanticizing rape, then literally nothing romanticizes rape.

We currently live in a culture that has a hard enough time seeing sexual assault as rape when women do it, so yeah, actually, I think there’s quite a few people out there who took quite the toxic message from this monologue.

And if it weren’t for that story, I would have been perfectly fine with the other section. There’s just something…unsettling…about a book which glorifies a pedophile and then has a later section where a little girl is asked what her vagina smells like.

I don’t think that’s me just “making it sexual.” I think that’s me being deeply disturbed at the message one chapter is spreading and looking at the rest of the chapters with concern because of it.

Source: lushpuppy