Lesbian Domestic Violence significantly more violent

“Lesbian relationships were significantly more violent than gay relationships (56% vs. 25%).

Lie and Gentlewarrior (in press) surveyed 1,099 lesbians, finding that 52% had been a victim of violence by their female partner, 52% said they had used violence against their female partner, and 30% said they had used violence against a non-violent female partner.

Finally, Lie, Schilit, Bush, Montague and Reyes (1991) reported, in a survey of 350 lesbians, that rates of verbal, physical and sexual abuse were all significantly higher in lesbian relationships than in heterosexual relationships:

56.8% had been sexually victimized by a female, 45% had experienced physical aggression, and 64.5% experienced physical/emotional aggression.

Of this sample of women, 78.2% had been in a prior relationship with a man. Reports of violence by men were all lower than reports of violence in prior relationships with women (sexual victimization, 41.9% (vs 56.8% with women); physical victimization 32.4% (vs. 45%) and emotional victimization 55.1% (vs. 64.5%).”

Donald G. Dutton - Department of Psychology, University of British Columbia

Mary P. Koss says "men can't be raped"?

From https://imgur.com/juq7kVB
Mary P. Koss thinks that it is "inappropriate" to consider men who have been raped by women as rape victims, because "their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting". She calls it "unwanted contact". (source)

The first quote comes from Detecting the Scope of Rape (1993, p. 206-207) and the second and third quotes comes from a radio interview from earlier this year.

http://boysmeneducation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Koss-1993-Detecting-the-Scope-of-Rape-a-review-of-prevalence-research-methods-see-p.-206-last-paragraph.pdf

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/mary-koss-doesnt-think-women-can-rape-men-and-boys/

See also:

Why does Feminism fight against the protection of rape victims?

Favourite Feminist Quotes

Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor:

- "I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." —

-"I haven’t the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero- sexual men could fulfill,... I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. ...possibly not exist? No, I really don’t mean that. Yes, I really do."

-"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."

-"kill your fathers, not your mothers".

Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto
-"To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo."

-"there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."

"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things."
— Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas)

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." — Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

Andrea Dworkin

-"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." —

-"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."

-"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies."

-"Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman."

-"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is."
-"The annihilation of a woman’s personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality."

"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" — Ti-Grace Atkinson

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." — Ti-Grace Atkinson

"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" — Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6

"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." — Sheila Jeffrys

"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated." — Catherine MacKinnon

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." — Catherine MacKinnon

"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs."
— Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)

"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."
— Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies.

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men." — Sharon Stone; Actress

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." — Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.

"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."
— Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.

"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." —Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.

"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them." - David Angier

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."
— Marilyn French (her emphasis)

"All men are rapists and that’s all they are"
— Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore’s Presidential Campaign.)

"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations…obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign."
— Marilyn French

"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."
— Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman.

"A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’
— Judith Levine, (explicating comment profiling prevailing misandry.)

"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ‘hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with—husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers."
— Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love

"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ‘sex acts’…includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder."
— Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)

"Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men’s violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. " — taken from Daphne Patai’s excellent critical work, Heterophobia

"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" (National NOW Times, January, 1988)

"Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us" (Gloria Steinem, radical feminist leader, editor of MS magazine)

"Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men…. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism," November, 1971)

"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." — Elizabeth Cady Stanton

- See more at: http://oratorasaurus.tumblr.com/post/53087260843/lzbth-im-not-a-feminist-why-because-i#sthash.O48mxvf7.dpuf

Men at work

Source

• Original article here
• The people who compiled the Census data
• Bureau Of Labor Statistics Labor Force Numbers 2013
• Bureau Of Labor Statistics Labor Force Total Population by Sex
• Google docs graph of the compiled Census data
• 2010 Census Bureau Employed Civilians by Sex

Another post you should check out:
Feminist myths and claims debunked

Thoughts on Doctor Who: “Death In Heaven”

Spoilers. Avoid if you haven't seen it and want to.






























It's be trivial to resurrect *all* of the characters who died in that period. They could say that their personalities were uploaded, and that when Missy was zapped, she was uploaded (which she was counting on), and the same could be said for Osgood and Danny.

Now on a practical level, what you have is a gigantic database connected to a virtual reality, so that the personalities can act and agree to have emotions deleted (why? why not delete them without consent? That only makes sense from a magical perspective).

OK, at the end the place was 'crashing' - but it's entirely possible that that just meant that the VR was crashing and the database was intact, with the characters in their 'last saved format'.

UNIT finds that database, can't really understand it, and manages to extract however many characters you want .. and once they have them, it's possible to keep them going in a virtual reality (have them appear as holograms ) or find a body to put them into.

The cyberman body bit made no sense at all. There's no reason I can think of for the original bodies to matter. IF personalities can be uploaded (I think they can't) THEN the source does not need to be maintained.

When you scan a novel into a pdf file, does the pdf file need the novel to be preserved to continue to exist?

Only if you have 'magical thinking'. In a pure fantasy novel, fine, it's all necromancy, of course you need a corpse, but Dr Who could at least use elements of science fiction that are really, *really* old, and that have addressed this very problem.

See Kiln People as an example, or the books of "The Culture". I think Arthur C. Clarke was writing about this idea in the 1960s, but I'd have to check.

Now, i do not think personalities can be uploaded because in going from analog to digital, you have losses. As such, at best, you have someone who is sort of similar, which is not 'you' any more than a brother or a daughter is.

But Dr Who can make up the rules as it likes, and if digital copying is allowed, but only with extreme limits, then why don't the Time Lords use it themselves? Why bother regenerating? You just upload, get a body grown as in the BSG reboot, download, and even have many copies.

So you'd need a reason within the story to stop them doing it. I think the sampling idea would be the logical one except that it would interfere with the flow of this story.

I have to say I hated this story except for parts - but loved the characters. Plotwise, I felt very disconnected; the sillier parts kept throwing me out of it. I was also disappointed because it would have been interesting if Missy had deliberately set up the moral conflict to include "you can allow a wipe of the database" - and kill these people you love - or you can allow it to continue but it will require my freedom or self-destruct". Use it as a hostage.

When I figured out Missy was the Master (and let's face it, most people had figured out long ago), I did remember Kate Orman asking (maybe 27 years ago) why the Doctor couldn't regenerate as a female. So I'm wondering if that's on the books. I have to admit I'll disconnect at that point, but who knows? Perhaps it will then become even more popular. We'll see.

A Million Mangina March?

http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-43643-high-heels-testosterone.html


" in support of ending sexual violence against women."

How will crossdressing accomplish this task, and why only against women*? Will women be doing anything to help male victims? Haha, only kidding, of course they won't. Feminism is HeForShe, never the other way around.

" a hope for a future where sexual violence will no longer exist in society."

Why not hope for a future where violence will no longer exist in society? Because that's insane. Because limiting such things through laws and police is the best solution we have - and it's worked pretty well. Violence is far lower, sexual and otherwise, than it used to be.

Crossdressing has nothing to do with it, and is instead propaganda claiming that women are the only victims, men the perpetrators of all evil, and that women need men to protect them and can't do things for themselves - ironically in direct contradiction to the feminist mantra that "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle".

"It takes a strong man to be a partner and ally to those who are the victims to sexual violence"

Who are invariably female, by their understanding. It's interesting that it's not
""It takes a strong person to be a partner and ally to those who are the victims to sexual violence"

because of course, if you have a vagina, you can forget about it; it's none of your concern. Let the men do all the work.

"(It takes) even a stronger one who has the courage and self-respect to call other men on their sexist and disrespectful behavior and intervene in potentially dangerous situations"


Firstly, again it's emphasised that only men have to do this, secondly it's painted as if only men were sexist (and that sexual violence has to do with sexism, when it's mostly opportunism by the amoral elements of society) and thirdly RESPECT HAS TO BE EARNED.

You do no merit respect automatically because you have a vagina any more than if you have a penis.
If feminism was an egalitarian movement, this would be a no-brainer. The fact it's never considered is further proof that feminism is a deeply sexist movement.


"Real men ask permission"

Ah, the no true Scotsman fallacy, it must have been a billionth of a second since a feminist used that one last. Listen, whether men ask permission or not, they are still real men. They might be bad men or good men, depending on your understanding of morality BUT THEY ARE ALL REAL MEN.

And you don't need to verbalise with women any more than you do with men. If a woman touches up a man, and then man touches up the woman, and they have intercourse, by the Feminist PoV, he just RAPED her, because he didn't "ask permission".

Most people are completely happy with having sex without chatting throughout the process, and continually asking if you can continue is the biggest mood-killer i can imagine. Ok, next to my partner being Lena Dunham.

Feminists look at a couple who have been married for twenty years and happily enjoy each others bodies and decide "I MUST POLICE THEM".

He must be evaluated to see if he continually verbalises; she is a childlike waif who is incapable of saying "stop" when she needs to.

He, of course, is always ready and wanting for sex, so she never needs to ask him by their rules.
"I think that many men and every man on this campus is all ready to give this much pain to make sure that women can have equal rights as men and enjoy this campus," Pashtun said.


Well, job done then. Name one right men have in the West that women don't.

Just one. Take your time.

Would you like to phone a friend?

Let's swap it. Imagine if Feminism WAS an egalitarian movement. One that cared to make sure women and men were treated equally. Yes, that is quite difficult, can i recommend a Bex and  a lie-down afterwards - but just for a moment, imagine they actually walked the walk and not just talked the talk.

What would the women wear?

Combat boots.

Women cannot be conscripted in the West. In the United States, the difference is so substantial that a man does not even have suffrage unless he agrees to conscription. It's called Selective Service.

Now, count up all the Feminist organisations that want SS applied without sex-based rules.

I'll give you a hint: it's the same number as unicorns running for President in Uruguay in October.

*Why is it only straight women, anyway, do feminists imagine lesbian rape is a contradiction in terms?
Well that's exactly the argument used by Mary P. Koss of the CDC to justify rape laws that granted immunity to most female rape crimes. And "The Vagina Monologues" explicitly claimed it was "Good Rape" when an adult woman molests a child. So yeah, Feminists erase it or even praise it when it's done by a woman.
And when a man does it - all men did it, and all must be blamed.

BAN THE MALE GAZE!

The male gaze is a lens of entitlement. And challenging it is an integral part of feminism. Here are four ways to start.

They blocked me from their website so I thought I'd post a response here.

"The male gaze, which refers to the lens through which mostly white, heterosexual men are viewing the world, is a lens of entitlement."

Oh, a racist start: I like it!

"It’s entitlement to all of the privileges awarded to gazers"

Are they like beholders? Do they bob about with eyes on the ends of stalks?


" entitlement to view women"

So the author believes men are NOT entitled to view women. You know what we call a group which is not entitled to view the other group?

Slaves.

Feminists imagine men should never be allowed to open their eyes and glance upon the divine visage that is the female form.

Or Feminist Wrath shall Smiteth them, oh yea!

" (and even to touch them!)"

And yet who made the law saying it was illegal for men to touch women? Men. So by this author's warped argument, men believe they are simultaneously entitled to touch women at any time, and are forbidden to touch them on pain of imprisonment.


Alternatively, this is total rubbish and the author is whipping up hysterical fear and hate against white heterosexual men. Let's call the Jews from now on and see where that takes us. Oh right, can't do that - because then this article would be banned as hatespeech.

 "  and to discuss and exploit their bodies without consequence. "

 Ah, so the author not only wants to ban men from looking in the direction of their superiors, but even from talking about them.
 

.

 "Actions like walking up behind a stranger, grabbing her hips, and grinding up against her or staring at her suggestively from across the club while you run your hand down between your legs are examples of entitlement."

 Ah, but you just said it only applied to "white, heterosexual men". Women do all those things, to other women, and to men, and gay men do it to each other.

 So it seems to me that what you are saying is SEX IS BAD whenever the hated minority group does it.

 "Thinking that if you buy a woman a drink, she owes you something"

 Yep. Quid pro quo. She doesn't have to accept the drink. People don't buy other people drinks as an act of charity.

 " that if you spend all night talking to her, she has to sleep with you "

 Almost no sane person thinks that. However, they would feel cheated if sex wasn't on the table. If someone is spending all night speaking to you in that context - but they are not interested in you - then they deliberated wasted your time, knowing you wanted to get lucky, knowing you should have been talking to someone else. And this applies to straights, and gays, men and women. But you only object when Jews - I mean white straight men - stuff it, i'll says Jews - do it.

 You hate Jews. You only object to Jews doing these things. You have no problem when your group does these things. You want to criminalise it when Jews do it. You want to whip up hatred towards Jews - and act offended when we point this out.

 "Actions like walking up behind a stranger, grabbing her hips, and grinding up against her or staring at her suggestively from across the club while you run your hand down between your legs are examples of entitlement."

 Ah, but you just said it only applied to "white, heterosexual men". Women do all those things, to other women, and to men, and gay men do it to each other.

 So it seems to me that what you are saying is SEX IS BAD whenever the hated minority group does it.

 "Thinking that if you buy a woman a drink, she owes you something"

 Yep. Quid pro quo. She doesn't have to accept the drink. People don't buy other people drinks as an act of charity.


 It can be as simple as when a white asks a jew not to leer, wink, or whistle when they walk by only to be told, “I didn’t do anything! You’re being crazy!”

 Yep. A whistle is not the end of the world. It's an expression of opinion. If it's against the workplace rules, take that up with HR. But you are saying that no Jew may 'leer' at a white woman. Who can say when they are leering? Well, the white woman will just decide if she wants the jew to look at her, which as we all know is utterly disgusting and so she will always scream RAAAAPE when he glances at her. Because how dare he look, that's "eye-rape".

 Not making that phrase up btw - Feminists invented it.
 

"saying “dance like no one is watching” is a bit hypocritical in a culture where we are told that there are always people watching."

You don't understand the meaning of the word hypocritical. When they say LIKE no-one's watching, it means IGNORE THEM. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE LITERALLY NOT WATCHING, YOU IGNORAMUS.

"That they have a right to be watching – and judging."

Yup. That's what freedom means. They have the right to look around in a public places. They have a right to make opinions that you don't approve of.

You are a fascist piece of scum for wanting to deny them that right.

"No matter what a woman wears, it is assumed that those clothes are worn for the gazers."

Yep. Because people dress to communicate to the onlookers. Women do not dress up much, if at all, when isolated. Why would you think that they would? Humans are just as prone to sexual selection as birds, and like birds, we preen and dance for our mates.

You see reality as being a part of the conspiracy against you.

You are bloody INSANE.

Feminist vision of the Future?

Domestic violence awareness

From http://fucknointernetignorance.tumblr.com/post/100564966486/hagakura-considering-the-lack-of-resources-for

hagakura:

Considering the lack of resources for men and the abuse they get in even trying to use those resources, I’m all for raising awareness.

But the image text isn’t entirely accurate.

I’m assuming the 70% statistic comes from this - which says 50.3% of violence is nonreciprocal, and of that half, women are predominantly the aggressors (70.7%).



As for the actual percentage of victims, no one knows what it precisely is - only that there isn’t a significant gender gap when it comes to who’s the abuser and who’s the victim. Over 500 studies show it’s about 50/50. [1] [2] [3]

To dig a bit more into these statistics, because this is something I enjoy doing and it’s also an interesting way to examine how social expectations contrast with what actually plays out in reality, using the numbers above we can extrapolate that;

If 50.3% of domestic violence is nonreciprocal, and

70.7% of that shows women as the predominant aggressors, then

29.3% of nonreciprocal violence shows men as the predominant aggressors

49.7% of domestic violence is reciprocal.

And so the total ratio of violence is

Men are violent in 64.4379% of all domestic violence

Women are violent in 85.2621% of all domestic violence

Of course, the numbers don’t actually say anything with regards to instigation for just under half of the cases (the 49.7% reciprocal, that is), so we can’t really draw any conclusive ideas about “Who started it”. We can see, however, that in terms of domestic violence, women show slightly over 20% more likelihood of having been violent during a dispute than men. This really doesn’t add up with cultural expectations, especially ones such as those underpinning the Duluth Model.

Interestingly, the study also showed that “in relationships with reciprocal violence it was the men who were injured more often (25 percent of the time) than were women (20 percent of the time)”.

-Pete

How to manufacture a 'wage gap'

From fraudulentfeminist:
Made an info graph today..

check-your-privilege-feminists:

And in case you’re wondering what evidence we have that the wage gap is an inaccurate myth made up to portray “sexism” or “discrimination” in society:
Here is a comprehensive look at the falsehood of the wage gap, prepared for the government specifically, 95 pages. Enjoy

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

Here are some by women

http://www.payscale.com/career-news/2009/12/do-men-or-women-choose-majors-to-maximize-income

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048.html

US Department of Labor

http://social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/

More

The Gender Pay Gap is a Complete Myth

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28246928/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/

Gender pay gap is not what activists claim

http://wwww.examiner.com/x-22884-Canada-Politics-Examiner~y2010m2d22-Gender-pay-gap-is-not-what-activists-claim

Equal pay statistics are bogus because they don’t compare like with like

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/vickiwoods/7957186/Sorry-ladies-Im-not-worried-about-wage-gaps.html

Fair Pay Isn’t Always Equal Pay

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/opinion/22Sommers.html?_r=1&hp

The Wage Gap Myth

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_wage_gap_myth.html

Don’t Blame Discrimination for Gender Wage Gap

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-13/don-t-blame-discrimination-for-gender-wage-gap.html

The pay inequality myth: Women are more equal than you think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3pKN3XUKM&feature=youtu.be

Women Now a Majority in American Workplaces

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/business/economy/06women.html?_r=2

Labor force participation rate for men has never been lower.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/biggest-shock-fridays-payroll-report-sorry-men

Share of Men in Labor Force at All-Time Low

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/share-of-men-in-labor-force-at-all-time-low/?src=recg

Women In Tech Make More Money And Land Better Jobs Than Men

http://www.businessinsider.com/women-in-tech-make-more-money-and-land-better-jobs-than-men-2010-9

Female U.S. corporate directors out-earn men: study

www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0752118220071107?feedType=R

Female CEOs outearned men in 2009.

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=10630664

Women between ages 21 and 30 working full-time made 117% of men’s wages.

www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, single women between 22 and 30 years old earn an average of $27,000 a year. That’s 8% more than comparable men.

http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Young-Women-Earn-More-159818705.html

Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

Young Women’s Pay Exceeds Male Peers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704421104575463790770831192.html

The 15 Jobs Where Women Earn More Than Men

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2011/03/14/jobs-where-women-earn-more-than-men/

women aged between 22 and 29 earn over £10 per hour on average, compared to men their same age who earn just under this amount.

http://www.womenintechnology.co.uk/news/young-women-earn-more-than-men—news-800761492

Young women now earn more than men in UK

http://www.womensviewsonnews.org/2011/10/young-women-now-earn-more-than-men-in-uk/

ABC Radio National and Gamergate

Was listening to the ABC Radio National. Waleed Aly started off with the SJW stuff, promoting Sarkeesian and claiming that the people critical of her were the hated white men, , the so-called ‘gamers’,who must be swept away for the birth of the Utopia.

He called her a journalist, and I felt like vomiting.

Good grief! When did Anita Sarkeesian, a known thief and liar, become promoted to ‘journalist’? The piece on #GamerGate was purest propaganda.

1) The way they figured women were the majority of gamers was by including any sort of game, played for any duration. This is absurd. You don’t refer to someone who walked up a hill as a mountain climber. Playing facebook games doesn’t count as ‘gaming’.

2) This is the sort of report a genuine journalist does. http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/10/13/what-is-gamergate-and-how-did-it-blow-up-into-such-a-giant-conspiracy/ http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate

I think it is terribly sad that the ABC has become just a propaganda site for the Social Justice Warriors. The LNP claims it is hopelessly biased… and I’d have to say I absolutely agree.

Sydney University board blocks men’s society

People ask why MRAs don't DO more. The answer is because Feminism blocks us at every turn, using whatever gov't apparatus they can find to stifle our voice.

http://www.altmedia.net.au/sydney-university-board-blocks-mens-society/98435

BROSoc’s constitution states that the society’s main aim is to provide a safe space for men on campus and address mental health issues specific to men, through the establishment of a Men’s Shed.

The Men’s Shed is a not for profit mental health program for men and boys that has been broadly successful since it was founded in 2007.

At the monthly Board meeting, Queer Portfolio holder and USU Board Director Liam Carrigan argued that allowing the formation of BROSoc could cause “significant damage” to the queer community, especially amongst trans and genderqueer members.

Yes, simply letting us speak would harm those people. Feminists are certain.

No, they don't need trans or gay people to speak up; they'll do it for them.

No, it doesn't matter that some of our members ARE  trans or gay - they are wrong, and Feminists will stop them from saying anything because it knows what is best for them.

Only Feminists can be allowed free speech - it's the only way to keep it pure.

Is Zoe Quinn a murderer? Or just a pathological liar?

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Mallorie Nasrallah

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Alright, story time. I've been basically silent on this issue, I am not sure my contributions are relevant, and I have feared being ostracized and ridiculed. I can accept the latter, but I really hate to waste people's time.

In 2007 I lived in New Hampshire, and was working as a photographer with a number of soft core "alt" erotica / porn sites. I traveled frequently to work with models affiliated with the websites I was affiliated with. A model working under the name Locke Valentine - this is the woman currently known as Zoe Quinn - modeled for two websites I was affiliated with - she as a model, I as a photographer. One of those websites is still in business, the other - unfortunately the one we communicated via - is no more.

Locke / Zoe was living in Albany, NY at the time. We expressed a desire to collaborate, and set a date for three photoshoots.

In fall of 2007 (according to my EXIF data 10/25/2007) I packed up my equipment and drove the 220 miles to Albany, for a weekend of work with Zoe.

By time I arrived in Albany, Zoe had cancelled one of the three shoots we had planned. She lived in a tiny apartment with her boyfriend / spouse / lover (I did not ask personal questions) and her roommate. I had been assured I could over night with them, and that they had room to accommodate a guest, and room to shoot in. They had neither. We ended up doing an impromptu shoot in the extremely crowded apartment, in the middle of the night, to try to save the shoot. I was not proud of it, but I knew with a bit of editing, it had potential.

While we tried to plan a shoot for the next day Zoe, and Co. chatted with me. She claimed to have stabbed a man - attempted rapist - in the face, who had grabbed her.

She relayed to me no less than three other accounts of alleged violent assault. I will not share the details here, I feel that would be fundamentally indecent. I was alarmed at this, and I admit, by the time she made the claim that she stabbed a man in the face with a knife* and ran away, I was skeptical as well.

Two claims involved alleged workplace incidents, and were her prime explanation for why she could not hold a job. I was mildly disconcerted, because true or false, these stories have good cause to make one uneasy. She also claimed to have reported nothing to police, or management at her work.

That was not all we discussed, we talked about modeling, the websites, and erotica/porn in general. It was what we both did for a living, and candid conversation on the subject was not unusual.

The next day I had to drive everyone to the location of our shoot, which was her roommate's place of employment. An arcade. This is the location where the photo shown here was taken. I was irritated that after driving 220 miles, and having to carry all my equipment to a shoot, I was also deliberately given the false impression that Zoe, and Co. would have their own transport. I was also irritated that Zoe could provide neither her own wardrobe for the shoot - it is normal for the model to use her personal items in these sorts of shoots - nor her own food while on site.

Keep in mind, we both are paid by a site, once the photos are sold, everything I spent came out of my own pocket. Otherwise the shoot was unremarkable, it went far better than the one the night before, and we all had a basically good time.

We tried for some more photos that afternoon in a forested area Zoe directed me to, but we had neither enough light, or privacy to shoot anything substantial or of value.

I returned home, spent countless hours editing hundreds of photos. It was a terrible experience, but so be it.

When I was ready to send the photos off to Deviant Nation - the site we worked for - I wrote to her to let her know. It was only a few days, a week at most, since I had left Albany, but I ALWAYS get a model's final approval before I send photos off. As far as I know I am the only photographer working in that specific industry who had that strict policy.

Zoe informed me that her roommate, who had been involved in the shoots, either by being in the apartment, or smuggling us in to her place of work turned out to be a, " mentally unbalanced cunt," (her words not mine) among other things, and that it was unacceptable to use ANY of the photos we had taken that weekend.

I was pretty upset about this, and sent her several messages asking if perhaps I could talk to the roommate, have her sign a waiver, or something, despite the fact that neither Zoe, nor I, had any legal obligation to ask the roommate's permission for ANYTHING. Zoe insisted that she was a crazy, evil bitch, and refused to provide me with any sort of contact information.

Finally, weeks later, a handful of other models I had worked with on the site messaged me to inform me that Zoe had written them and told them that I forced her to look at, "mutilated vagina," pictures, which she said, had horrified her, and she had basically sent me away then and there. The models she told this to knew me, and thankfully came to me with these nonsense claims.

We had in fact discussed cosmetic surgery, while talking about modeling, and she had looked up Before/After Breast Implant images. The conversation moved on to Labiaplasty, and we looked at a few of those images as well. So, there is an inch of truth, in the really awful lie she told about me. There was never any force involved, and she was the one controlling the computer the whole time. This took place in her home, on her computer, with her boyfriend and roommate both in the room.

I decided it wasn't worth the fight. I was eventually contacted by the roommate, who told me a very different story to the one Zoe had, and I let the issue drop.

I was never paid for the images, because I respected her wishes and never published them. I still have the images in archive on my computer, because I archive everything. I was never reimbursed for the gas, wardrobe, or food I purchased on the trip. To someone starting their career, that was quite a dig to my wallet.

7 years later, Zoe is still BY FAR the worst client I have ever had.

What does this story have to do with GamerGate? When I realized Locke was Zoe, I was disgusted to see she was still playing the same games. Stealing, cheating, lying and claiming to be victimized by anyone and everyone.

Maybe she did stab some guy in the face, and maybe in the first week at every new job she had, some guy tried to extort sex from her. Maybe that doesn't establish an MO on her part. But I know, I did nothing wrong to that woman, and I did not deserve to be lied about.

I did not deserve to have my time and my money wasted, and even now, I wonder if opening my mouth about this means she will think of some new horse shit to spread about me to try to ruin my career. And that does seem to be her modus operandi.

If this were a courtroom, I would call myself some sort of character witness, and I'll let you all make of this what you will. Share it if you feel like it, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and watch her try to stomp out all the fires she has started by shitting on any more people's careers.

#gamergate #zoequinn

*Edit
Upon reading though archived emails, I discovered I can confirm and prove that she claimed to have killed the man she stabbed.

NOW seeks total domination of the Whitehouse

http://nowpac.org/all-federal-candidates-2014/

It's interesting to see how much control Feminist organisations have over the reins of power. No wonder H. Clinton looks to be taking the next Presidency. It's a done deal.

This is the same organisation which fights against men having access to their own children.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070708213232/http://michnow.org/jointcustody507.htm

The same one that fought to imprison men who couldn't pay child support due to losing their job.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110827003056/http://rinow.org/legislative-agenda/2011-legislative-agenda-draft-as-of-21411

Once imprisoned, they could be punished until they could earn enough to support their ex-partner in the lifestyle to which she had become accustomed. Because prison is a great place for increasing one's earning power, doncha know?

They also endorsed http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2011-2012/billanalysis/house/htm/2011-HLA-5328-3.HTM , a bill that meant that any man who was a parent through a crime would lose paternity, but any woman would retain it.

Compare this to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer case, which confirmed that women can rape anyone; even a child; and still be considered a fit and proper parent - to the point where they can claim damages FROM THEIR VICTIM.

Whenever Feminists tell you how much they are doing for men, ask them what they are doing against men. I have never found anything.

Then balance the harm they do against all the pretty words.

Feminism harms men, and seeks total control in order to reshape the world in it's image.

We must resist.

We will resist.

Reply to a Feminist promoting HeForShe

Xena Rubacha

7:27 AM

Yes, because during Gloria's time just about all women were abused by their husbands.

Feminism does do things for men, just not as much as it does for women. I don't see why in order for you to care about a cause it has to hurt you not to.

Women don't have equal rights to men. Not social, economic, or political. Only legal.

Men's rights women don't have (in the west):
-To not shave
-To not be sexually objectified (which leads to eating disorders, depression, and self-objectification which has a direct correlation to the fact that less women are in STEM fields)
-To not be slut-shamed
-To not be victim-blamed
-To get drunk in public without a high chance of getting raped
-To go topless (Some places it's not even legal)
-To not be catcalled or street harassed
-To not be called bossy for something a woman would be called bossy for
-To not be taught to value their appearance over everything else including intelligence
-Not to be told they need plastic surgery if they aren't "perfect"
-To not wear makeup and not be considered lazy or ugly
-Not having bills proposed to regulate your body
-Not getting paid only 77% of people of the opposite sex IN YOUR SAME POSITION
-Not to be encouraged not to do science or be smart so that you don't seem unattractive or intimidating
-Not being told to go make a sandwich as if that's all you're good for
-Not having your gender regulate that you are always overly emotional according to society
-Having your opinions validated by other men
-Not having someone repeat exactly what you just said and getting credit
-Not having your genitals be a symbol of weakness in society
-Having men validate you when you say it's not your job to do household chores
-Not have people assume you're a bad driver because of your sex
-Not being compared to a dictator who killed like 6 000 000 people when saying you want gender equalilty
-To not have it be assumed that youre a lesbian (like you did to me) or ugly (as if these makes your argument less valid) for wanting gender equality
-To not have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped

Is that one enough for you?

Feminists don't want those inequalities against men you stated.

"this is carried over into the media treatment of female pedophiles, who are routinely described having 'affairs' with their victims. When a woman commits crimes, people speculate on how some man must have made her do it. Women have successfully argued, for example, that domestic abuse *in a prior relationship justified the murder of a current partner - ad gotten away with it." I do not think that this is ok and neither do the rest of feminists. Also there shouldn't be any shame in being a pedophile. There should be shame in sexually abusing children, which not all pedophiles do.

Men rape more than women do, and women are raped more than men are. You are totally wrong.

No, feminists don't like to think that children are always safe in the hands of women. That enforces the idea that women are the caretakers and men are naturally violent which feminists very strongly protest. Maybe you could watch at least one of the videos I posted above.

By definition, misandrist feminist is an oxymoron.

The people you call feminists dont want equality, so by definition they are not feminists. I am a feminist.

"Yes, because during Gloria's time just about all women were abused by their husbands. "

Where's your evidence for that extraordinary claim? How do you know men weren't abused in turn?


"Feminism does do things for men, just not as much as it does for women."

There's no evidence of it helping, and plenty of it harming - evidence you ignore.

 "I don't see why in order for you to care about a cause it has to hurt you not to."

 I care about a cause that is positive, rather than negative. A few nice words doesn't erase a single bad deed - and oh, Feminism has so many.

"Women don't have equal rights to men. Not social, economic, or political. Only legal."

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/human-rights-explained-fact-sheet-1-defining-human-rights

"a set of moral and legal guidelines that promote and protect a recognition of our values, our identity and ability to ensure an adequate standard of living"

"Men's rights women don't have (in the west):
-To not shave"

Women can choose not to shave. Just as men can. Women do choose not to shave, just as men do.

There's no moral police force that arrests a woman for not shaving her legs.

You don't seem to understand what a "right" is. It's not a preference, it's not something you do to make yourself more attractive, or be more likely to get a job.  None of the things you talk about here are rights.. you are completely delusional and just want to change the subject. So I'll answer you and block you, because I can't say i respect you at all now.

"-To not be sexually objectified "

You don't understand the meaning of the word 'object'. A dildo is a sex object. I can break it and face a small fine or maybe a short stint in prison if I'm really lucky. A woman just has to allege sexual assault and get a crowd ready to kill the accused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa5kQbUl5_o

Women have never been sex objects, unless you count the times when we had slaves - and then men were treated the same.

You don't appoint an object to rulership of a kingdom, like Elizabeth 1. You don't give them TWO NOBEL PRIZES, like Marie Curie.

You feminists are so lost in ideology that you are blind to reality. You don't care about the facts; you love lies so much you think they are better than truth.

"-To not be slut-shamed"

Oh, so shaming people because of their sexual behaviour is bad, is it? So feminists don't call men 'creeps' for asking them if they want a coffee? Bullshit!

"-To not be victim-blamed"

Hmm. And feminists don't do that to men? What happens when men are raped in jail? They are told they deserved it. When they are beaten by women in public? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cywQhs_6iC4

Huh. Not only are they blamed - but others join in.

"-To get drunk in public without a high chance of getting raped"

'high" chance - bullshit! Women get drunk in public all the time. The rape cases are trending down - and the number of men and women raped is approximately the same. But then thanks to Feminist rape apologist Mary P. Koss, they can't be charged with it in the US, sso I'm pretty clear you Femin ists have no problem with that.

"-To go topless (Some places it's not even legal)"

Gasp! You mean.. nature has given us different bodies! You mean.. women have sex organs on their chest and men don't? Shocking! How dare nature give women additional areas for stimulation and even orgasm! How .. oppressive! Yep, that's one right women have that men don't. But quite a few men would have boobs if they could.

"-To not be catcalled or street harassed"

Cat calling is a bullshit feminist term that means anything from "you have nice eyes" to "suck my filthy c**k", so excuse me if i can't take it seriously - but HARASSMENT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. Women can, and do, have men arrested if they are harassed. Yet despite the fact street cameras are practically everywhere and almost everyone has recording devices with them at all times, there's no evidence of the 'wave' of cases.

Feminists never provide evidence for their bullshit. They have only slurs instead - blood libel against the hated men. "The Jews are poisoning the wells", they whisper, "we must kill them all".

"-To not be called bossy for something a woman would be called bossy for"

Ok, that's idiotic. Again, you have no bloody evidence that females are called bossy differently than males are. Leaders lead, bosses boss. Bosses should be called out, because they are bad leaders.

"-To not be taught to value their appearance over everything else including intelligence"

And who is teaching them that? I don't remember that in the curriculum. Oh you mean in women's magazines.. written.. by women.. by feminists, in fact.

It's certainly not men saying it. Men hate fakes. Men see the 'geek girls' and will test them out to see if they are just a pretty face or if they genuinely know their stuff. If they are smart, they're in, no question. They might not get laid as much - but if you think that doesn't apply to men, you have another thing coming. It's not Albert Einstein who creeps into the fantasies of young ladies.

"-Not to be told they need plastic surgery if they aren't "perfect""

You don't have a RIGHT to be appealing to others. NO-ONE HAS A 'RIGHT' TO GET LAID. Even in a barrage of idiotic misunderstandings of the word 'right', this one stands out.

Who the fuck is going around to women telling them they need plastic surgery? Plastic surgeons? Do they knock on doors? No, that's crap. Women's magazines, run by women, set the beauty standards for women, and advise women on how to compete with other women.

AND THEY WOULD DO THAT IF ALL MEN WERE LONG DEAD.

Because sexual attractiveness is *power*. And women get off on it in a big way; or do you think John Merrick was lusted over? It didn't matter that he had a bright mind and a gentle nature; his appearance was what women valued. http://www.halloween-mask.com/Lubatti/09/john_merrick_3_lub.jpg

Gosh. Maybe women and men are equally lustful and visually stimulated? "No, never!!" cries the Feminist, outraged at being knocked off her pedestal.


"-To not wear makeup and not be considered lazy or ugly"

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE DESIRED. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO WANT YOU? YOU HAVE TO EARN IT.

"-Not having bills proposed to regulate your body"

Hahaha, oh god, you're serious?

If a man and a woman have sex, she can decide if she wants to keep the child unless there are particular circumstances. He has no say. She can choose to force the father to pay for a child he will have no rights over, and have him imprisoned if he can not pay. Even if he was raped by her. Even if he was raped by her AS A CHILD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer

And Feminists make damn sure that no-one regulates a woman's body like they do a man's. Every time there's a war, men are told they must fight or be imprisoned, they must kill or be killed. Women are not.

Strangely, non-Feminist countries have no problem with female conscription.

It's almost as if Feminists saw men as disposable money objects, expendable bullets in the military machinery. As things. Why do Feminist love objectification so very, very much? Why are they incapable of seeing men as people?


"-Not getting paid only 77% of people of the opposite sex IN YOUR SAME POSITION"

That's horrible! Ok you got me on that one. If only someone had passed a law making that illegal.

Oh right, they did. Before you were born.

You are complaining of lacking a right that you have never experienced the absence of.

Did you want to complain you are not allowed to vote while you are at it?



"-Not to be encouraged not to do science or be smart so that you don't seem unattractive or intimidating"

Lots of women are encouraged; if anything, they are encouraged to the point where males are being washed out of education. The amount of free scholarships etc for women is astounding. No-one encourages males. We just do it.

So maybe the reason you aren't doing science and repeat the wimminz studeez propaganda is.. you just aren't good enough for a science degree?

MARIE CURIE WASN'T 'ENCOURAGED'. SHE JUST DID IT. SHE GOT TWO NOBEL PRIZES, WHICH IS MORE THAN ALMOST ALL SCIENTISTS WHO EVER LIVED. AND STILL YOU ARE WHINING.


"-Not being told to go make a sandwich as if that's all you're good for"

I wouldn't trust you to hold anything sharper than a rubber ball.

"-Not having your gender regulate that you are always overly emotional according to society"

You really have to get your story straight on that one. Guess who uses their periods as a legal defense in murder trials? I don't see any Feminists protesting that!

"-Having your opinions validated by other men"

NO-ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OPINIONS VALIDATED. MEN CERTAINLY DON'T. YOU ARE AN IMBECILE. I AM NOT GOING TO VALIDATE STUPIDITY AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE MALE OR FEMALE; YOU ARE POSSIBLY THE STUPIDEST TWIT TO GET BEHIND A KEYBOARD.

(*swaps in a new keyboard as the old one lies in smoking ruins*)

"-Not having someone repeat exactly what you just said and getting credit"

.................................

Nope, I didn't think it was possible but you topped your former peaks of stupidity with that one.

Hey everyone! Feminists really think that that doesn't happen to men! Hey, get a load of that! (*click*)

"-Not having your genitals be a symbol of weakness in society"
I really don't want to have anything to do with *your* genitals. I think even lysol would run screaming from that abomination. Trust me, there's nothing weak about the odour seeping out from below.

But other women, non-Feminist women? They're STRONG.

Margaret Thatcher didn't give a shit about what 'society' thought about her pussy. She just did it. She had more power in her pinkie than you Feminists have in your entire harpy horde.

And the non-Feminist women who, with their men, fight, and kill, and die ... I'd say they don't give a used tampon what you think about. Any one of them is worth a hundred of you.



"-Having men validate you when you say it's not your job to do household chores"

It's not the 1950s. You haven't actually been in a relationship, have you? Unless the man comes from a traditionalist culture, it's a non-issue - and if the problem is you don't like the culture THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RIGHTS.

In some cultures men have to be tough, can't show weakness, must always be ready to fight - and in those the women get to be defended, to do the inside work, the safe work, the work that doesn't get them killed.

Both sexes benefit. But here's the thing; if you don't like that culture, you can leave it. IT'S NOT OPPRESSION WHEN YOU HAVE A CHOICE.

"-Not have people assume you're a bad driver because of your sex"

HAHAHAHA, no you're serious again. You are claiming that a stereotype is the same thing as an oppression; that the right to vote is in the same league as the right to be considered a good driver? You do know people will happily classify Asian males as bad drivers? The truth is young males and females ARE bad drivers, and that's why the insurance rates are higher.

That's called REALITY. If you think reality is oppressing you, YOU NEED THERAPY.

Which applies to most of the feminist complaints. If you substitute "I need therapy" for "I need Feminism", it works really well.


"-Not being compared to a dictator who killed like 6 000 000 people when saying you want gender equalilty"

Hitler didn't kill 6 million people, a political movement did. One that classed people as inferior based on a genetic difference.


What was it Germaine Greer said? Ah yes. Men are "genetic defectives".

And what do Feminists do that the Nazis never did?

The Nazis didn't build the Holocaust in a day. They build up to it, stirring up hate, day after day, using lies and half-truth and appealing to people's fear, making them feel that they were victims, that the enemy was attacking them, that if they were violent it was just self defense.

The Nazis never wrote books or made speeches about reducing or exterminating the jews.

Feminist DO.

FEMINISTS WRITE BOOKS, PUBLISHED IN FEMINIST WORKSHOPS, WITH 'FEMINIST' WRITTEN ALL OVER THEM, ADVOCATING GENOCIDE, AND THE AUTHORS ARE CELEBRATED BY FEMINISTS, INVITED TO SPEAK AT CONFERENCES, TREATED AS HEROES.

The Nazis kept their genocide a shameful secret.

Feminists? They just get angry when you point this out. HOW DARE YOU SAY WE ARE MAN HATERS! NOW SHUT UP, WE WERE DISCUSSING EXTERMINATING YOU WORTHLESS SCUM!

"both feminism and Nazism have

•     discriminated against individuals on the basis of their genetic code
•     promoted the view that the targeted group was inferior genetically and behaviourally
•     promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being labelled as ‘parasites’
•     promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being constantly ridiculed
•     promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being laughed at even when mutilated
•     demonised the target group by labelling them as perverts and sexual criminals
•     sought to break the target group away from their families
•     promoted the view that the targeted group was responsible for most of the major ills in society
•     disseminated lies and disinformation about the targeted group in order to further promote their own ideology
•     disseminated lies and disinformation about historical matters
•     used intimidation, threats and coercion to prevent their opponents from speaking out
•     promoted the lie that the privileged group consisted of innocent ‘victims’ of the targeted group
•     demanded special privileges in the workplace for members of the privileged group e.g. preferential job placements for women
•     discriminated against the targeted group in educational matters and in the workplace
•     perverted the justice system so that members of the targeted group were easily discriminated against in the law e.g. in family courts
•     arranged matters so that accusers from the privileged group could be shielded by anonymity in the courtroom e.g. in sex-assault cases.
•     arranged matters so that defendants from the targeted group had to ‘prove’ their innocence e.g. in sex-assault and domestic violence cases
•     arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define what, legally, was to be deemed ‘a crime’, e.g. where nowadays the ‘feelings’ of women rather than the behaviours of men are the determinants of what constitutes ‘a crime’
•     arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define how the law was to view certain matters e.g. a fetus inside a woman can now be deemed by her - at her whim - to be a worthless piece of tissue or a prospective baby - with all the ramifications of this - regardless of how the father might feel about it all (also sexual harassment, etc.)
•     arranged matters so that the law punished members of the targeted group more severely than members of the privileged group for the very same crime e.g. in domestic violence and murder cases.
•     arranged matters so that members of the targeted group were made responsible for the choices and behaviours of members of the privileged group e.g. in paternity fraud cases where duped fathers still have to pay child support
•     arranged matters so that members of the privileged group who harmed, or even murdered, members of the targeted group were shown undue leniency - and were often actually applauded for their actions
•     arranged matters so that the law punished members of the targeted group severely for even trivial offences, e.g. domestic violence, sexual harassment
•     arranged matters so that members of the privileged group earned a right to the property of members of the targeted group for no other reason than that they were members of the privileged group e.g. alimony, child custody.
•     arranged matters so that certain speech or attitudes directed against the privileged group were criminalised e.g. biased ‘hate speech’ laws.
•     punished those who protested against the prevailing ideology; e.g. for being politically-incorrect.
•     effectively controlled the mainstream media and the academic institutions and arranged for them to present a dishonest and dishonourable point of view in support of their ideology
•     consistently highlighted and exaggerated the achievements and the suffering of the privileged group while downplaying the achievements and the suffering of the targeted group
•     ran government-funded educational courses in universities (e.g. Women’s Studies, Title IX) and in schools to promote the privileged group at the expense of the targeted group.
•     persisted in a long term campaign of hatred toward the targeted group, e.g. “A women needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” “Men think about sex every 15 seconds.”

From http://oratorasaurus.tumblr.com/post/60912346989/mr-cappadocia-can-often-get-overboard-with-his


Bar the heavy violence and the gas chambers - which came towards the end of the Nazis hold on power - feminism and early Nazism are rather similar."

"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." — Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.


"To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo."
— Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."
— Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things."
— Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas)

"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." — Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." — Andrea Dworkin



"-To not have it be assumed that youre a lesbian (like you did to me) or ugly (as if these makes your argument less valid) for wanting gender equality"

"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." — Ti-Grace Atkinson

Hmm. It looks like it's Feminists who say you should be a lesbian. Me, I don't think you should inflict your body on anyone.


"-To not have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped"

According to a bullshit survey that feminists did where they classed women as rape victims even if they didn't see themselves as that and were happy being with their 'rapists'.


"Is that one enough for you?"

No, something valid would have been nice.

"Feminists don't want those inequalities against men you stated."

You might want to tell THEM that. They don't seem to have got the memo. http://oratorasaurus.tumblr.com/post/50147759527/correct-for-every-one-innocent-man-in-jail-there


"Men rape more than women do, and women are raped more than men are. You are totally wrong."

Am I? http://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

"No, feminists don't like to think that children are always safe in the hands of women."

(*cough*) Tender Years Doctrine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_years_doctrine

Oh right, the Patriarchy did that, it's just really cunning the way it made Caroline Norton alienate fathers from parenthood. Gosh!

"That enforces the idea that women are the caretakers and men are naturally violent which feminists very strongly protest."

Where and when do Feminists protest even feebly that women are the caretakers? Because the Father's Rights movement would have loved to have had some support from them. But no, as i linked before, they fight against it all the bloody time.

 https://web.archive.org/web/19970712035610/http://www.now.org/nnt/03-97/father.html

 http://web.archive.org/web/20070708213232/http://michnow.org/jointcustody507.htm

As for men being naturally violent, fuck yeah, feminist believe that and say that constantly.

"By definition, misandrist feminist is an oxymoron."

Definitions don't work that way. A Nazi can't define Nazism as "a political movement for the promotion of harmony of all races" and be credible. I look at all the man-hating Feminists who your movement celebrates, and has built FAN-CLUBS for, and I think they are more real than your tepid variety.

Your lot gave them awards; your lot cheered them on. You don't get to hide them when the police come around, and claim innocence when the hounds sniff out the bodies of their victims.

"The people you call feminists dont want equality, so by definition they are not feminists."

You don't get to decide retrospectively who is in and who is out. And since none of your mob are protesting the ones who are active now - the ones running political parties like THE FEMINIST INITIATIVE - you'll excuse me if I yawn every time you say that. You are a liar, and repeating the lie doesn't make the lie more true, it makes it boring, and you have bored me long enough.

 "I am a feminist.?"

One who has no knowledge of history, who erases every part of your movement you find inconvenient, who ignores the terrible things your group does and invents atrocities to portray yourself as the underdog even as you dictate the laws of the countries and control the bloody UN.

And what do you, as a Feminist, regard as the terrible injustices of this time?

The Suffragists fought for the right to vote.

The original Feminists fought for equal pay.

You fight.. for the 'right' to be found attractive, regardless of whether you ARE attractive. You imagine the only reason people don't feel lust for you is that they are oppressing you.

That's called sexual selection, sweet-ums. It's a bloody law of nature. You are looking at reality and saying "I don't like it; this has all got to go".

Well, why don't you try running at a brick wall, and see who gets out of the way first? Reality isn't going anywhere sunshine. It'll beat *you* anytime.


Bored now. We're done.

So how do Feminists really feel about joint custody?

Retrieved https://web.archive.org/web/19970712035610/http://www.now.org/nnt/03-97/father.html on 1/10/2014 , archive found in 1997.

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"Father's Rights" Groups:
Beware Their Real Agenda

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by Gloria Woods,

President, Michigan NOW

"Shared Parental Responsibility." In our work as women's advocates, how often have we heard custodial moms wish that their children's father would share the parental responsibility? Unfortunately, "shared parental responsibility" is the new doublespeak for joint physical custody by so-called "father's rights" groups.

For example, in Michigan proposed legislationsupported by these groups would impose joint custody on parents who are in conflict over custody. Most studies report that joint custody works best when both parents want it and agree to work together.

The Michigan legislation states that in a custody dispute the judge must presume that joint custody is in the "best interests of the child" and "should be ordered." To make any other decision, a judge must make findings why joint custody is not in the children's "best interest." This is a high legal standard that makes it very difficult for judges to award any other custody arrangement. It is also a departure from the generally accepted standards determining what's in the best interest of the child.

Michigan NOW opposes forced joint custody for many reasons: it is unworkable for uncooperative parents; it is dangerous for women and their children who are trying to leave or have left violent husbands/fathers; it ignores the diverse, complicated needs of divorced families; and it is likely to have serious, unintended consequences on child support.

Forced joint custody is also a top legislative priority of fringe fathers' rights groups nationwide. These groups argue that courts are biased and sole custody awards to mothers deny fathers their right to parent. They allege that, in most cases, mothers are awarded sole custody, with fathers granted visitation rights. The men cite this as proof of bias against fathers.

The truth is that in 90 percent of custody decisions it is mutually agreed that the mother would be sole custodian. According to several studies, when there is a custody dispute, fathers win custody in the majority of disputed cases.

The legislature's determination to impose joint custody on parents in conflict is a frightening proposition for many women and places them and their children in harm's way.

There is documented proof that forced joint custody hurts children. "In the majority of cases in which there's no desire to cooperate, joint custody creates a battleground on which to carry on the fight," one researcher reported in the legal magazine, The Los Angeles Daily Journal (December 1988).

In "Ongoing Postdivorce Conflict: Effects on Children of Joint Custody and Frequent Access," Janet Johnson and her colleagues compared children in court-ordered joint custody with children in sole-custody homes. In both situations, the parents were in "entrenched conflict." This study showed that under these circumstances frequent shuttling between both parents in joint custody "is linked to more troubled emotional problems" in children than the sole-custody arrangement.

Imposed joint custody is particularly dangerous to battered women and their children. As the director of the Michigan Domestic Violence and Treatment Board said in her testimony opposing this bill, "...the exchange of children during visitation can be the most dangerous time for the [domestic violence survivor] and her children."

"My experience with presumptive joint custody as a domestic relations lawyer in Louisiana was almost uniformly negative," said NOW Executive Vice President Kim Gandy. "It creates an unparalleled opportunity for belligerent former spouses to carry on their personal agendas or vendettas through the children -- and with the blessing of the courts.

"Attorneys often referred to it jokingly as the `lawyer protection act' because repeated trips to court over minor issues kept the fees rolling in, and the mothers were more likely to suffer," Gandy said.

Joining Michigan NOW in opposing this legislation are: antiviolence/ women's shelter groups, the bar association, child psychologists, social workers, family law experts, judges, lawyers, and even the Family Forum (a right-wing, "traditional family values" group).

You can check out the supporters of this bill and become familiar with the groups' real agenda by logging on to the Internet using any search engine such as Yahoo to search for "fathers' rights," or connect to: http://www.speakeasy.org/fathersrights/ or http://web2.airmail.net/fathers4to learn more about their activities.

Further information on forced joint custody, including a list of studies and reports on its dangers, is available from the NOW Foundation at 202-331-0066.

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Why do people think Feminism is a Hate Movement?

This info is from draumbouy

• Feminists threaten to kill woman for saying men need abuse shelters.
• Feminists prevent a meeting about male suicide.
• Feminists stage mock murders to scare men. 
• Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism.
• Feminists shut down forum for battered husbands.
• Propaganda campaign against male fathers wanting custody.
• Feminists wish to slander accused names before convicted. 
• Try to shut down female prisons.
• Create rape laws that exclude female rapists.
• Make it impossible to charge women with rape.
• Feminists against equal custody.
• Female felons should serve home sentences.
• Told judges to be lenient on women.
• Feminists cover up female domestic violence.
• Feminists don’t want the gov to help unemployed men.
• Feminists launch campaigns to help girls only while boys are doing worse in every facet of education.
• Males who were raped as a child still have to pay child support.
• Women should have the right to put a child up for adoption before the father gets custody.
• Feminists against beyond reasonable doubt when it’s male rapists.
• 5 rights feminism ignores for men.
• Feminists blame males for their abuse.
• The primary aggressor clause where only men get charged with abuse.
• Shame men into going to war.
• Feminists dismiss female child rapists.
• Feminists say men can’t talk about domestic abuse.
• Feminists mock a man who has his dick cut off.
• Strawmanning MRA members.
• feminists attack church.
• Feminists transphobia
• Feminists slander the MRM
• Again, 
• And again, 
• Call them terrorists.
• Feminists say Men can’t be raped. 
• Feminists defend female raping minor.
• Feminist defends why fucking an 8 year old boy isn’t rape.
• Feminists primary aggressor clause discriminates against males.
• Feminists cover up female domestic abuse stats.
• Woman smashing bottle in mans face in public. Nobody gives a fuck.
• Jezebel mocks men who are abused.
• Feminists make sure the gov doesn’t spend money on male shelters or male research.
• Female on male abuse in public is at best ignored, and at worst celebrated.
• Public stops a man from abusing a woman in public, same crowd laughs when the roles are reversed. 
• No funding for male shelter. 
• Founder of Canadas only male shelter for abuse forced to close due to lack of funding before committing suicide. 
• Violent crimes? Only a few examples. One of which is their violent protest against Warren Farrell when he spoke in Toronto: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
• Another would be this mob of pro-abortion Feminists in Argentina: http://www.lifesitenews.com/horror-mob-of-topless-pro-abort-feminists-attacks-rosary-praying-men-defend.html
• Feminists disrupt a forum for battered men: http://youtu.be/qodygTkTUYM
• Tumblr users sarah-bunny and feminism-is-your-friend harass and DOXX an Asexual rape victim: http://dontneedfeminism.tumblr.com/post/78589971327/abbeyxmae-serebrii
• Tumblr user manhatingfeminist tells a user to kill themselves: http://dontneedfeminism.tumblr.com/post/78734991790/you-need-to-kill-yourself-lol
• Tumblr user musemorplsunerd defends a woman who raped an 8 year old boy: http://dontneedfeminism.tumblr.com/post/81918411593/you-do-realize-that-8-year-olds-cannot-give-any-kind-of
• Feminists threaten to kill woman for saying men need abuse shelters.
• Feminists prevent a meeting about male suicide.
• Feminists stage mock murders to scare men. 
• Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism.
  
  feminismisahatemovement
  anonymous said:

  PART 2 there was a part two I guess you couldn't find it Anyways I think feminism hate is a little silly because why are you hating something that's trying to help everyone that's like hating water like everyone needs it except where with feminism everyone complains about not having equality (feminism) but then rags on it. Why hate something that you don't have a valid reason to hate

  

  Why? Oh, I dunno, let me think……
  

  • Men want protection against false rape allegations. They feel that a man’s life should not be ruined simply on the allegation of a woman who may be a vindictive liar. Currently, a woman can accuse a man of rape for no reason, and the man’s name is splashed in the paper and his life is ruined. So, they fought for laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged. Feminists fought against this, causing it to fail. Also see here, the London Feminist Network campaigning to defeat the proposal.
  • Men want an end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.  Feminists fought against this, arguing that no woman should be sent to jail, even women who had murdered multiple people.
  • Men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies. Feminists fought against thisby trying to suppress evidence showing that half of domestic violence is done by women, by threatening the researchers with bomb threats, death threats, etc. Modern, younger feminists are doing it as well.
  • The feminist definition of domestic violence has skewed arrest and prosecution philosophies, resulting primarily in having only male batterers criminally pursued.
  • Men want female rapists to be arrested, charged, and convicted with rape. In Western countries, women are rarely punished when raping men, due to the biased legal system. In some countries, women cannot be punished when raping men, since rape is defined as a male-perpetrated crime. Feminists fought against this in India, arguing that “there is a physicality [in] rape” and that it would make things “more complicated for judges.” Feminists fought against this in Israel, claiming that changing the law would result in men filing false rape claims.
  • Men don’t want to be thrown in jail because they lost their jobs and temporarily cannot pay child support. Feminists fought against this, trying to lower the amount to $5000 before a man is guilty of a felony for not paying child support. If a man loses a decent-paying job, he will now be a felon, go to jail, lose his right to vote, AND be unable to find future jobs—if he cannot regain an equal-paying job within a few months.
  • Men want equal economic support and help from the government. When the recession hit, male-dominated fields like construction lost millions of jobs, while female-fields like education and healthcare gained jobs. So the government proposed an economic stimulus for those fields. Feminists successfully fought against this, arguing that it was discrimination to support men, and caused the government to give money to women who didn’t deserve it. Hundreds of professional feminists complained against the “sexism” of helping men (who had lost jobs) and not women (who had gained jobs).
  • A representative of the Michigan National Organization for Women testified in opposition to the Revocation of Paternity Act, which stopped the old law which stated that if a woman was married and cheated on her husband, the resulting child is considered to be legally the husband’s and the biological father had no legal rights to fight for custody or parenting time with his biological child.
  • Feminists skewed the Definition of Domestic Abuse, resulting in only male abusers being arrested and female abusers not.
  • Feminists’s DV training hurts Police training
  • Feminist Mary Koss denies male rape victims.
  • Feminists violently protesting against Warren Farrell at U of Toronto
  • A mob of feminists at a recent protest attacking and sexually molesting a group of Rosary-praying Catholic men who were peacefully protecting the cathedral in the city of San Juan from threats of vandalism.
  • Feminists disrupt a forum for battered men
  • Feminists fought a law for equal custody to be the default if both parents want custody and neither parent is unfit. Multiple times.
  • Feminists started a campaign against Father’s rights groups
  • Feminists fought against laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged.
  • Feminists fought against a law to end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.
  • Feminist fought against men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.
  • Feminists in India and Israel fought against female rapists being arrested, charged and convicted of rape.
  • Feminists fought against a economic stimulus for male-dominated job such as construction, etc.
    
  • Feminist fought a law against  Paternity Fraud.
  • Feminist Harriet Harman has publicly requested employers to hire women in preference to White men if both job candidates are equally
  • Equality Minister,feminist Patricia Hewitt, was found guilty of breaching the Sex Discrimination Act by “overlooking a strong male candidate for a job in favour of a weaker female applicant”.
  • Elected in 2009, the lesbian feminist prime minister Johanna Sigurdardottir has vowed to “end of the Age of Testosterone
  • Feminists want to peeing while standing illegal
  • Erin Pizzey had to flee the UK because she and her family received death threats and her dog murdered all because feminists didn’t like that she discovered women were equally as violent as men.
  • Also Suzanne Steinmetz and her children received death threats and bomb threats she discovered that  the rate at which men were victimized by domestic violence was similar to the rate for women.
  • Richard Gelles and Murray Straus  have all received death threats from feminists, simply for publishing their findings (that female-to-male family violence was equal to the rate of male-to-female violence).
  • Feminists say Men can’t be raped. 
    
  • Feminists defend female raping minor.
  • Feminist defends why fucking an 8 year old boy isn’t rape.
  • Most feminists backed studies are bullshit.
  • Beyond reasonable doubt doesn’t apply to rape.For men only
  • Feminist changes mind on rape culture when her son is falsely accused.
  • Feminists primary aggressor clause discriminates against males.
  • Feminists cover up female domestic abuse stats.
  • Jezebel mocks men who are abused.
  • Feminists make sure the gov doesn’t spend money on male shelters or male research.
  • Feminists prevent a meeting about male suicide.
  • Feminists stage mock murders to scare men. 
  • Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism.
  • Feminists shut down forum for battered husbands.
  • Propaganda campaign against male fathers wanting custody.
  • Feminists wish to slander accused names before convicted. 
  • Try to shut down female prisons.
  • Create rape laws that exclude female rapists.
  • Make it impossible to charge women with rape.
  • Feminists against equal custody.
  • Female felons should serve home sentences.
  • Told judges to be lenient on women.
  • Feminists cover up female domestic violence.
  • Feminists don’t want the gov to help unemployed men.
  • Feminists launch campaigns to help girls only while boys are doing worse in every facet of education.
  • Males who were raped as a child still have to pay child support.
  • Women should have the right to put a child up for adoption before the father gets custody.
  • Feminists against beyond reasonable doubt when it’s male rapists.
  • 5 rights feminism ignores for men.
  • Feminists blame males for their abuse.
  • The primary aggressor clause where only men get charged with abuse.
  • Shame men into going to war.
  • Feminists dismiss female child rapists.
  • Feminists say men can’t talk about domestic abuse.
  • Feminists mock a man who has his dick cut off.
  • feminists attack church.
  • Feminists shut down a festival about gender equality for including men.
  • Feminists hope MRA’s die.
  • Feminists against fathers day.
  • Feminist makes up fake assault stories. 
  • Female reporter bullied by feminists at the National Young Feminist Leadership Conference
  
  

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