It's interesting to see that Female Supremacists simply do not care about the truth; they'll create statistics on a whim, and edit quotes to better suit their needs. Socrates was just a dead white male, in their book, and it really does show.
anonymous asked:
You always talk about how bad rape is. You are absolutely right but you completely erase male victims. Women rape too. It is rare but it exists and if you really are against rape, you can not erase a victim group.
stfueverything:-
BUT WHAT ABOUT TEH MENNNNNZZZZ!!!Isn’t it amazing how they constantly ignore that, and make it out to be like we’re the bad ones because we “ignore” male victims. No assholes, you’re ignoring male perpetrators.
Also, male rape victims are very nearly always raped by males. By saying “but..but the women rape tooooo” and ignoring male perpetrators you are, in fact “erasing your own victim group”
karmainmyeye:-
So let me get this straight;
You’ve come to the conclusion that almost 100% of rapists are men. You’ve done this by using a definition of rape that exclusively defines rape as something only men can do.
Such mental gymnastics. Gold medal for you.
e-tank:-
Nope.
I used this definition:
"Rape is sexual assault initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person’s consent.”
As you can see the base definition of rape has nothing to do with the gender of the perpetrator.
Then I looked at the statistics and percentages of rape of females by males and rape of males by males: 99%
Then I looked at the statistics and percentages of rape of males by females and rape of females by females: 1% (BTW .7% of that 1% is female/female)
Then I said, “rape victims are very nearly always raped by males.” Behold my mental gymnastics!
Now I’ll say that rape is predominately a form of male violence. if you believe that the .3% of rapes committed by females on male victims negates that statement then you’re delusional.
karmainmyeye:-
The statistics are based off of that definition. The Bureau of Justice website where feminists’ favourite cherrypicked statistic comes from is currently down, but Wikipedia will do just fine.
Let me show you a thing.
The U.S Bureau of Justice Statistics, which defines rape as penetration by the offender, states that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and 99% of rapists are male.
You see that right there?
I don’t think I need to elaborate on how this clearly states “only men can rape”. Forced envelopment and other forms of rape are excluded entirely, which by extension means that female rapists and their victims are swept under the rug and ignored.
Go find a new statistic, because that one is complete trash.
e-tank:-
Nope.
I gave you the statistics by studies defining rape as such.
"Rape is sexual assault initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person’s consent.” The stats are based on that definition.
But if that’s not good enough I’ll use your own source.
"The FBI changed the definition from ”The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” for their annual Uniform Crime Reports.
The definition, which had remained unchanged since 1927, was considered outdated and narrow.
The updated definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men, recognizes that rape with an object can be as traumatic as penile/vaginal rape, and includes instances in which the victim is unable to give consent because of temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity, and recognizes that a victim can be incapacitated and thus unable to consent because of ingestion of drugs or alcohol.”
And even then 99% of rapes are still committed by males. No matter how much you want rapists to be 50% male and 50% female the fact is that if you get raped there is a 99% chance you are getting raped by a male regardless of your gender.
karmainmyeye:-You are ACTUALLY this fucking dense. I can’t believe it. At this point I can’t tell if you’re wilfully ignorant or if you’re just deliberately spouting misinformation.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c "Rape". Merriam-Webster. April 15, 2011.
- ^ Jump up to:a b "Sexual violence chapter 6". World Health Organization. April 15, 2011.
- Jump up^ "Rape". dictionary.reference.com. April 15, 2011.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c d e "Rape". legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com. April 15, 2011.
- ^ Jump up to:a b "Rape at the National Level, number of police recorded offenses".United Nations.
- Jump up^ American Medical Association (1995) Sexual Assault in America. AMA.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c "A gap or a chasm? Attrition in reported rape cases" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-12-31.
- Jump up^ "UCSC Rape Prevention Education: Rape Statistics". www2.ucsc.edu. Retrieved 2008-01-01. The study was conducted in Detroit, USA.
- Jump up^ Abbey, A., BeShears, R., Clinton-Sherrod, A. M., & McAuslan, P. (2004). Psychology of Women Quarterly, 28, 323–332."Similarities and differences in women’s sexual assault experiences based on tactics used by the perpetrator". Retrieved 10 December 2007.
- Jump up^ "Statistics | Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network". www.rainn.org. Retrieved 2008-01-01.^ Human Rights WatchNo Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons. Part VII. Anomaly or Epidemic: The Incidence of Prisoner-on-Prisoner Rape.; estimates that 100,000–140,000 violent male-male rapes occur in U.S. prisons annually; compare with FBI statistics that estimate 90,000 violent male-female rapes occur annually.
The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
This is the current definition as of January 2012. It says so right here. And as recently as May 2013, an FAQ was posted about that definition. It’s still current and is still used by law enforcement agencies.
I also find it hilarious that you copy-pasted the paragraph from the Wikipedia page on rape and doctored it to try to make it look like the current definition is gender-equal and not based on penetration.
What you posted;
"The FBI changed the definition from ”The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” for their annual Uniform Crime Reports.
The definition, which had remained unchanged since 1927, was considered outdated and narrow. The updated definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men, recognizes that rape with an object can be as traumatic as penile/vaginal rape, and includes instances in which the victim is unable to give consent because of temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity, and recognizes that a victim can be incapacitated and thus unable to consent because of ingestion of drugs or alcohol.”
And here’s what the page actually says. The bolded portion is the section of text you removed.
In 2012, the FBI changed their definition from "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." to “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” for their annual Uniform Crime Reports.
The definition, which had remained unchanged since 1927, was considered outdated and narrow. The updated definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men, recognizes that rape with an object can be as traumatic as penile/vaginal rape, includes instances in which the victim is unable to give consent because of temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity, and recognizes that a victim can be incapacitated and thus unable to consent because of ingestion of drugs or alcohol.
Intellectual dishonesty from a feminist. I’m shocked.
In short, the legal federal definition essentially states that only men can rape, and thus excludes female rapists. This protects female rapists from any form of punishment and greatly skews statistics to the point of invalidating them; all statistics based on that definition (such as the 99% you keep spouting) as well as statistics based on conviction or arrest rates are completely useless and unusable.
And for your “sources”;
I don’t really get what you’re trying to say by copy-pasting that wiki source. I mean when you take the most dangerous men in the country and throw them all into one place where they’re cooped up for years and years it’s not really all that surprising that rape runs rampant in there?^ Jump up to:abc"Rape". Merriam-Webster. April 15, 2011.The dictionary definition isn’t the same as the legal federal definition. This source is completely irrelevant.^ Jump up to:a b "Sexual violence chapter 6". World Health Organization. April 15, 2011.It took me about 3 seconds to find this;Sexual violence includes rape, defined as physically forced or otherwise coerced penetration – even if slight – of the vulva or anus, using a penis, other body parts or an object.They define rape as requiring penetration. Useless.Jump up^ "Rape". dictionary.reference.com. April 15, 2011.More random dictionary sites. Still not relevant - not until you can find a source that uses these definitions as their definition of rape and bases their statistics off of said definitions. You haven’t yet.
^ Jump up to:a b c d e "Rape". legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com. April 15, 2011.^ Jump up to:a b "Rape at the National Level, number of police recorded offenses".United Nations.I can’t read this document without Microsoft Excel.Jump up^ American Medical Association (1995) Sexual Assault in America. AMA.18 years old, no link to anything. Next.^ Jump up to:abc"A gap or a chasm? Attrition in reported rape cases" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-12-31.UK government website, therefore uses UK government definition. I wonder what that is?Rape has been redefined from the Sexual Offences Act 1956 (amended in 1976 and 1994) to read:>strictly gendered definitionA person (A) commits an offence if—
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
lol byeJump up^ "UCSC Rape Prevention Education: Rape Statistics". www2.ucsc.edu. Retrieved 2008-01-01. The study was conducted in Detroit, USA.This 404’d. How about you try actually checking the sources instead of just copy-pasting from the references on Wikipedia?Jump up^ Abbey, A., BeShears, R., Clinton-Sherrod, A. M., & McAuslan, P. (2004). Psychology of Women Quarterly, 28, 323–332."Similarities and differences in women’s sexual assault experiences based on tactics used by the perpetrator". Retrieved 10 December 2007.This whole thing defines rape as something men do to women. There is gendered language everywhere. Pass.Jump up^ "Statistics | Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network". www.rainn.org. Retrieved 2008-01-01.^ Human Rights WatchRAINN is hilarious. Not only do they deliberately fudge numbers to further their own agenda, but the sources in their statistics pages regarding rape all link to either outdated information or US government sources, meaning it’s all based on penetration. Bye.No Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons. Part VII. Anomaly or Epidemic: The Incidence of Prisoner-on-Prisoner Rape.; estimates that 100,000–140,000 violent male-male rapes occur in U.S. prisons annually; compare with FBI statistics that estimate 90,000 violent male-female rapes occur annually.I like how the only time a feminist mentions prison rape, it’s for the sake of pushing some “only men are rapists” bullshit.
Also;Just as many men rape women as women rape men. The CDC just doesn’t classify forced envelopment as “rape” for some reason. But yeah, you’re wrong about everything. Get dunked.
From here. Table 2.1 and 2.2 on pages 18 and 19.
e-tank:-
Really good breakdown of a fucking shitstain who really went out of their way to erase male rape victims
Like jesus christ, did you ever stop to think to yourself:
"Hey"
"I am literally editing the content of my sources to make a rape definition look more gender neutral, so I can deny that male rape victims are erased, which will score brownie points for my political agenda"
Did that ever cross your mind or is this sort of willful ignorance just a sort of instinctive behavior in some types?
Do you just not even realize what you’re doing as you do it?
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