What the hell are MRAs even trying to do?

Reblogged from http://fidget98160.tumblr.com/post/95227608349

+ http://sylph-politics.tumblr.com/post/88130855825/onemv-todrownindarkness-what-the-hell-are

sosungalittleclodofclay:

todrownindarkness: What the hell are MRAs even trying to do?

onemv: Raising awareness of male victims of violence, rape, and abuse. Trying to get the definition of rape expanded to more than just men. Right now in many places it is not considered rape for a woman to coerce, use…

todrownindarkness: What the hell are MRAs trying to do that feminists aren’t already trying to help with/fix?

I’m going to copy a thing, and I want you to read it very, very carefully.

In fiscal year 2015 the United States Government will grant Two Hundred and Twenty Two Million in Grants to Combat Violence against Women.

During that same fiscal year men will be significantly more likely to be murdered, assaulted, and mutilated. They will be more likely to die on the job. They will be more likely to suicide. They might be more likely to be raped. We don’t know. We don’t count. And they will be subject to roughly half of all acts of domestic violence.

No money is earmarked to benefit males. None.

Meanwhile organizations such as NNEDV.ORG lists men not getting a job as a form of domestic violence.

Of course, men are also the victims of domestic violence… just read about it here:



Does… does that seem a little… biased to you? Just a little? Maybe? Sorta?

NAH!

Fortunately it has neat links… like Women’s Law. Which has, if you dig a little, a state by state guide on how to best get custody of the children.

This includes such handy step by step guides as “How to sue your abuser" and even includes a handy manual on how to maximize your alimony payments., this comes with an additional primer on what to say to the Judge when questioned as well as such useful tips as telling the Judge your husband hasn’t been helping with the bills lately… which again constitutes economic abuse. I wish I was making this up. And while adultery in and of itself does not guarantee a good divorce settlement… framing it as Cruel and Inhumane treatment does!

Additionally if your husband refuses to have sex with you for a year or more you can sue him for that too!

Careful though, it’s not as effective if your husband is sick or dying.

But if you’re smart you can straight up throw your husband out of the house and then use the court to order him to support you while you fuck other men and you’re still married! Huzzah!

Also… Not only do women receive child support until the children are TWENTY ONE FUCKING YEARS OLD (in New York)…. they are urged to demand child support even if the husband is currently on assistance, in prison or homeless.

So… who exactly RUNS this upstanding and unbiased bastion of good in the world?

KIM A. GANDY

President & CEO - 

General counsel of the Feminist Majority and the Feminist Majority Foundation, where she led their successful campaign to modernize the FBI Uniform Crime Report definition of rape. <-the definition of rape that makes it so you can drug and rape a 14 year old boy and it’s not rape. If you’re a woman.

Alright… so there’s a Feminist running it… it’s not like you actually have to BE a Feminist to work for this… OH SHIT…



and now that you’ve read it do tell be what feminists are trying to do for men.

please.

Bomb threats

From http://feminismisimportantlove.tumblr.com/post/87789053818/i-hope-someone-bombs-that-hotel-where-the-mras-are

Feminists have been making a lot of these bomb threats. I guess they feel that what they did to Erin Pizzey's dog was just practice, and they are now moving to the big leagues.

I wonder if Hillary Clinton is already drawing up their Presidential Pardons?

"But since when has MRAs done -anything- for male victims”

hellnoradfems answers Feminist attacks on Male Rights Activism

Reblogged from(http://hellnoradfems.tumblr.com/post/87033962058/imminentdeathsyndrome-sarahjhuynh

“I doubt feminists would be against helping to fund male support groups for domestic violence and sexual abuse”

Erin Pizzey started one of the first women’s shelters in the modern world. Pizzey has been the subject of death threats from feminists because of her claim that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally as capable of violence as men. Because of feminists who not only threatened her, her family, and shot her family dog she went into exile for over a decade.


Here’s a fundraising campaign to build a men’s shelter in Ohio that only raised $235 of its $100,000 goal. If this were a fundraiser for a women’s shelter the goal would have been met in no time.

According to a special report by SAVE, “An estimated 1,200 abuse shelters are currently in operation in the United States. It’s well-known that most of these shelters routinely turn away male DV victims, or provide them a substantially lower level of service.

One former shelter director revealed,  ’The shelter did not provide services to male victims of domestic violence, even when the men had suffered physical abuse similar to what women had experienced.’

Psychologist David Fontes noted that when he advised male victims to call local domestic violence programs for help, his clients found that ‘either the shelters and centers never returned their calls, or they were told by the workers that they really don’t have the services for male victims of domestic violence.’ In those cases when men in desperate straits showed up at their door for help, Fontes noted that ‘some of the men felt they were treated at these shelters and centers more with suspect than respect.’

Ironically, not only do shelters discriminate against male victims, they also treat female batterers as victims. In one case a female abuser called wanted to get help with her anger management problem, but the local domestic violence center ‘tried to convince her that she was a victim and not a perpetrator.’

In a more curious case:
A woman was arrested and ordered out of the house following her assault against her husband. She was referred to a shelter. Her attorney provided the shelter counselor with a detailed account of what had transpired: ‘Mrs. C. grabbed Mr. C. by his necktie (and) he pushed her away. Mrs. C. then punched his face and her fingernail cut his neck.’ And how did the shelter workers assess the situation in its records? ‘Physical abuse’ of the woman by her husband.

Judy King Smith, director of the Rape and Domestic Violence Information Center in Morgantown, West Virginia, once admitted, ‘We do not shelter men in the shelter even if it’s empty.’

Why?

For the simple reason that ‘we were founded for the purpose of providing shelter to battered women and their children.’

According to Boston Globe columnist Cathy Young, these coordinating councils ‘formally require member organizations to embrace the feminist analysis of abuse as patriarchal coercion.’ An example of that perspective came from the director of the Massachusetts Coalition Against Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence, who made this dismissive comment about male victims: ‘Sometimes it snows in Florida … but we don’t make public policy around it.’

These coalitions have not been welcoming to organizations that serve male victims.

In Maine, the Maine Coalition to End Domestic Violence refused to approve the application for membership from the Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men, explaining that our ‘current criteria require that membership be organizations whose primary purpose is to provide a full range of services to battered women and their children.’

In New Hampshire, the New Hampshire Coalition against Domestic and Sexual Violence likewise refused membership to the Violence Intervention Program – New Hampshire, on the grounds that VIP-NH, which had a predominantly male clientele, duplicated the services already provided by A Safe Place, a domestic violence crisis center located in the same area. But Ann Venier, the center’s education and outreach coordinator, had a different story to tell: ‘We did not provide shelter to any men.’

More recently, a survey of 3,410 shelter persons residing at 215 abuse shelters in eight states found fewer than one percent of the respondents were male.”

TL;DR Feminist organizations influence shelters to reject male victims, attempt to convince female aggressors that they are the victim,  and shelters serve less than one percent of male victims across the United States. Feminists do not acknowledge male victims, don’t care about them, and threaten those who tell the truth.
"But since when has MRAs done -anything- for male victims”

Earl Silverman was a men’s rights advocate who operated Canada’s only shelter for male victims of domestic abuse — doing so out of his own pocket and without government funding — but was forced to sell the property because he couldn’t afford its upkeep.

Silverman attempted to get funding from provincial and federal governments to help run his shelter and home, but believed he was always refused because the space was dedicated to helping male victims and their children. Silverman committed suicide last year in April due to personal demons.

The incredibly high suicide rate of males around the world in comparison to female suicide rates has always remained a main focus for men’s rights groups.

TL;DR MRAs have done something for male victims, you stupid twat. Perhaps if feminists weren’t around every fucking corner trying to thwart their pursuits to understand male issues and figure out solutions to them then maybe there would be more examples of things they have done.

Maybe feminists should just fuck off and stop protesting MRA events, tearing down posters promoting them, and attempting to slander their movement at every turn. In other words, MRAs never gave a fuck about feminists before they started to slander them.

A better understanding of Anti-Feminism.

by  Mr. Cappadocia, edited by myself.

(source)

If you read nothing else I’ve ever written, or ever will write, please read this because it may make everything about my philosophy clear.

(Speaking in response to the suicide of Earl Silverman, a man who operated Canada’s only male run men’s shelter, after he had been rfepeatedly denied funding for his shelter while the Canadian government had set aside $350,000,000.00 for Feminist run women’s shelters.)

Blondeyed says: "The Governor General of Canada is male. The Prime Minister of Canada is male. The Speaker of the Senate is male. Over half of current Canadian senators are male. The majority of Canadian Supreme Court judges are male. The majority of members of the Canadian Parliament are male.

See where I’m going with this? The government that you are so infuriated with, the one that refused to provide funding for Canada’s only domestic abuse shelter for men, is primarily made up of men. And you blame feminists"

Because you’re right, you’re completely right. All of those men in power and not a single one of them thought it would be prudent to fund a men’s shelter. Even a *single* men’s shelter, despite devoting hundreds of millions to women’s shelters.

You make it that far but then you don’t stop to ask why. Why didn’t those men in power fund that shelter? You of course will think “Because Patriarchy!” and that’s where you would be completely wrong (and also why I blame Feminism for what I’m about to explain).
There’s a big huge gigantic difference between men and women that is incredibly significant but almost never discussed. Own group bias. Women have it, men don’t. This means that men prefer women, and women prefer women, but nobody prefers men.

As explained here: Four experiments confirmed that women’s automatic in-group bias is remarkably stronger than men’s and investigated explanations for this sex difference, derived from potential sources of implicit attitudes (L. A. Rudman, 2004). In Experiment 1, only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem (A. G. Greenwald et al., 2002), revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic own group preference.

I cannot overemphasize how important the above paragraph is. Everything else being even, women favor women over men, and *men* favor women over men.

There’s more though, because many women clearly like men… so what gives? And this is a second very important part of why Anti-Feminism exists. Because Feminists, for example, only really see this guy:

and never this guy:

When they do their comparisons… in their pursuit of “equality” it’s not the homeless man they expect to be equal to… it’s the wealthy executive.

The truth is many women do the exact same thing. Poor, undesirable, pathetic men are of no interest to them. None. This is actually the root of the “Nice Guy” meme. He’s a man that comes pre-rejected and so is worthy of nothing but scorn, ridicule, contempt, and hate.

This isn’t some massive plot at work. This is *human nature*. It’s instinct. Women care about other women as a survival technique, and men don’t care about the well being of other men as a reproductive technique. This forced competition, often to the death, among men, is very cruel but has been decidedly beneficial to the human race as a whole.

So women care about men at the top, and other women, but not the men at the bottom. Powerful men care about women, and men at the bottom care about women. Nobody, however, is especially concerned with those men at the bottom and they make up a HUGE percentage of men. And we just don’t care about them.

That’s why all the most powerful men divert so many resources to the care and well being of women while *simultaneously* being relatively disinterested in aiding other men. Not only are women the majority of voters, but there is a built in justification for doing so.

Feminism, being composed largely of women, mimics society. It sees the top men, makes policy based on the top men, and casually ignores the bottom men. The last Feminist I’ve heard of that tried to set up a men’s shelter was Erin Prizzey and Feminists *killed her dog* and drove her out of England. Here’s where it gets interesting. Because right now in your head you might be thinking that’s terrible they killed her dog. So your sympathy is with the woman that lost her dog, or maybe even the dog that lost its life. It’s not with the men who lost the domestic abuse shelter. You didn’t even give them a passing thought.

And all of society is like this. All of it. The men at the bottom get ignored, get glossed over, get scorned, get ridiculed, get sneered at. And Feminism, as what is currently substituting for “gender studies” aids and abets this because it does its damndest to ensure nobody ever thinks about those men at the bottom.

So now not only do people just naturally avoid thinking about the bottom men… now Feminists actively work to *ensure* nobody has any interest in them or their suffering.

And that’s a damn fine reason to be Anti-Feminist.

Why I Need Men's Rights

Oratorasaurus' quick answer


My answer?

Well, I'm an egalitarian and an MRA. I want a world without double standards.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale
, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A, http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/why-are-there-such-double-standards.html

Did you know that female rape is legally erased by the clever use of definitions?

http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/rape-erasure-blog-reblogged.html

RAINN uses the dodgy definition and is endlessly quoted as evidence of the perversity of men. At the same time, women get lighter sentences and are coddled by the media for acts of sexual perversity http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/female-pedophiles-get-weekend-detention.html, http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/lesbians-need-to-be-taught-not-to-rape.html

In India, recently, the definition of rape was legally changed to mean no woman could be charged with it. http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/a-sad-day-for-male-rape-victims-in-india/
https://archive.is/jaJRz 6 May 2015 03:36:54 UTC

 In Israel, feminists agitated to make sure the immunity remained on the books there. http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Womens-groups-Cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape
https://archive.is/SkIjG  8 Aug 2015 11:34:52 UTC

The ratio of rape victims is actually pretty close to 1:1 for male and females. http://www.genderratic.com/p/836/manufacturing-female-victimhood-and-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/

I want legal equality, which means that if there's a domestic dispute, my sex isn't an issue (and it is in the US, the arrest guidelines are to arrest 1 party, and it's the taller one, which usually means the man). http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/primary-or-predominant-aggressor-laws.html

I want to know I'm relatively safe when I have sex that I won't have a false accusation of rape (http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/false-rape-accusations.html)..

..that if i'm drunk and they're drunk, and the law says drunk people can't consent, either we both should be charged - or neither. http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/women-cannot-consent-because-they-are.html, http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/consent-continued.html

I want to know my life is as valued as a woman's. When i look at the money invested in breast cancer vs prostate cancer, or in domestic violence shelters, or the opposition to universal, rather than male-only conscription, I don't see it at all. Men are disposable.

Going from the imagery google presents, females perpetrating DV is non-existent.

Almost all police and governmental campaigns show
heterosexual relationships,
male perp,
female victim
- even when a woman massacred her seven kids and her niece.
Or eight of her own children.

I've talked to criminologists who claimed there were NO cases of DV where a woman was at fault. None.


 I know first hand that's only happening because they ignore them. Legal support is gender specific. http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/why-dont-men-in-australia-get-same-path.html


I'm hoping my friend has a better outcome, but i can tell you that even with voice recordings of threats, he still couldn't get an AVO  - police protection from his ex - and she still shares custody despite a history of violence. http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/men-in-sweden-are-at-least-as-likely.html


I want Men’s reproductive rights

    Right to know one is, or will be a father.
    Right to Legal Paternal Surrender.
    Right to Ownership of Person (i.e. semen, c.f. Woman Used Sperm From Oral Sex To Get Pregnant, Gets Child Support for example).

Right to know you’re a father, right to determine you’re not ready to be a father, and right to prosecute those who misuse your semen to their own ends.

I never, ever want to see a headline like this again, but I know I will because men and male sexuality is demonised now, men are seen as filthy rape monsters, barely restrained but always close to the edge . http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/boy-15-kills-himself-after-facing.html

I want to see an end to the Duluth model (http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/tthe-duluth-model-of-misandry.html), which says that only women should be parents, and which was instituted by feminists.

It's the reason men are so bitter about child custody. It's resulted in situations where a woman can rape a child - then demand payments for the offspring. http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/a-12-year-old-boy-can-be-raped-then.html

Woman, 18, charged with boy's rape at church

In my country, aboriginal men are arrested for possessing pornography that is perfectly legal for anyone else... the belief that male sexuality is dangerous, and that our masturbation aids must be destroyed, our penises mutilated, our gaze lowered, and all sexual advances prohibited, is a weird combination of christian and feminist beliefs.

We live in a time when men are forever told they are unwanted - "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" - "my vibrator is better than your body!"

I cannot imagine a woman would ever hear the equivalent of those statements.

I remember when men could feel pride, could feel desired, and were willing to fight and die for this country.

Most young men now seem somewhat ashamed of being born. Or they radicalise, either becoming MRAs, or religious fanatics. Religion offers self-worth to men -put at a terrible price. Look at the young men in the US who became muslim terrorists - why do you think they found that lethal ideology appealing?

I have to wonder, when men are taught they are worthless.. why should they put their neck on the line for women? Why should they have to die to protect a system that claims they are useless? Why should any man be intimate with a woman who says he is unwanted? Or who at least, doesn't oppose her Sisters who claim he is?

Finally, we live in a time when my speech - my opposition to feminism - looks like it will become a crime in some countries like Sweden, a ban which looks to be spreading-  and such speech -which i hope you will agree is nonviolent - has been used to ban youtube and other social media accounts.


http://brettcaton.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/should-laws-be-passed-to-suppress.html Violence is being used to stifle the expression of people like me.

So even if you don't believe a single word of anything I have said, ask yourself this:

What violence have MRA groups done?

https://youtu.be/FWxAljFlb-c

What violence is being done to MRAs?

Isn't opposing that violence and allowing free speech the reason we fought against the fascists in WW2? The reason that millions of people died, and yet we still counted that sacrifice as worthwhile? Will it all have been in vain?

Men and women... are people. No better, no worse. Fellow travellers on the road of humanity, equal sharers of the land and sky. That is the single truth of Men's Rights. And that is why you need it too.

Should laws be passed to suppress certain types of anti-feminism?

Surely this is an outrageous question? Didn't we fight wars in which millions of people died, fighting for the freedom to speak the truth as they saw it?

Apparently they died for nothing...



"not at all, it would go underground and people need to know it exists in order to oppose it and prevent it from growing. "

Hmm... yeah, that sounds comforting... so opposing feminism is the equivalent of belonging to some sort of dangerous cult... people don't even talk that way about the KKK and they killed people..

"MNL_1221 answered 1 month ago
We already have some books that suppress certain types of anti-feminism: namely, laws that prohibit job discrimination, sexual harassment, unfair treatment of rape victims (such as prosecutors asking a rape victim during a trial about her past sexual experience), and such."

So opposing feminism is the equivalent of sexual harassment or discriminating against job applicants? But they are right about the rape trials; it's a venue where a male is presumed guilty and the accuser given elevated status.

"However, because of the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech, I don't think you can pass laws preventing anti-feminists from expressing their opinion about women's place in the world. They are free to express their thoughts, and so are those who disagree with them."

Damn shame.

"That said, certain rules in certain organizations--Yahoo!, for instance--allow some organizations to censor speech that they find hateful. Also, the media has rules and laws concerning certain types of speech that may hurt or offend others."

But here's a loophole we can use to suppress free speech! Yay!

"However, speech meant to incite violence against others--such as calling for violence against women who don't "tow the line"--would be censorable and prosecutable. "

"speech meant to incite violence against males"... that's not worth mentioning. Heck, they deserve it! It's "*fabulous*", to quote Sharon Osbourne.

"Freedom of speech should not mean freedom to defame. "

Yes, it should.. if it's true. Truth must be an absolute protection. If Richard Nixon is a crook, and I'm arrested for saying that, then what freedom do I have?

"dark eyes answered 1 month ago
No. In their manner of getting their cause "out" they are inadvertently indicating the necessity of the feminist movement!

Because arguing against National Socialism is proof we need National Socialism!

"They're burying themselves. They cuss, they threat, they go around with this "she has that,I want it, too" attitude."

How dare they demand equality from an organisation that claims it is about equality! Don't they realise it's equality only when it benefits women?

"They want the rights of having a uterus, without having a uterus."

Strawman. I don't recall any man demanding the right have a womb. Except maybe in Life of Brian...

"They want to rid lower standards, affirmative action, then complain women are weak, emotional, etc... then complain we DON'T take the dangerous, deadly jobs! "

This paragraph is incoherent.

Yes, we want to rid lower standards of education for men,
Yes, we want to rid lower standards of healthcare for men,
Yes, we want to rid lower standards of justice for men,
Yes, we want to rid lower standards of social value for men.

We are right to complain when women want to be paid the same as a man doing a dangerous job, without taking the same risks. That's anti-capitalism at it's finest. Even communist countries gave the worst jobs some sort of incentives.

You know what they call forcing a group to do the dangerous stuff without rewards?

Slavery.

And so on and so on.

finally, check these three links:


Google Inc., YouTube LLC: Categorize the MRM as flaggable for terrorism/promoting hate on YouTube.

Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia
NORDIC TAXPAYER FUNDED REPORT DEMANDS ANTI-FEMINIST VIEWS BE DEEMED ‘HATE SPEECH’ AND CRIMINALIZED

People are saying YES and doing their best to make it so that people like me will be silenced or imprisoned. Every mention of us will be controlled through wikipedia et al so that we will be defined by our enemies; or outright *erased*.

Why do MRAs compare Feminism and Nazism?

It's not like feminists are throwing people into gas chambers!

But.. have a look at this argument.

The Nazis were around well before the heavy-duty violence and the gas chambers. And for quite some time they operated in a manner that paralleled in many ways the more recent activities of feminists.

(By making)  this comparison, it brings to the attention of people the kind of forces that gave rise to Nazism and it makes them understand a little better the horribleness of discrimination and demonisation.

Both feminism and Nazism have

• discriminated against individuals on the basis of their genetic code
• promoted the view that the targeted group was inferior genetically and behaviourally
• promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being labelled as ‘parasites’
• promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being constantly ridiculed
• promoted propaganda that led to the targeted group being laughed at even when mutilated
• demonised the target group by labelling them as perverts and sexual criminals
• sought to break the target group away from their families
• promoted the view that the targeted group was responsible for most of the major ills in society
• disseminated lies and disinformation about the targeted group in order to further promote their own ideology
• disseminated lies and disinformation about historical matters
• used intimidation, threats and coercion to prevent their opponents from speaking out
• promoted the lie that the privileged group consisted of innocent ‘victims’ of the targeted group
• demanded special privileges in the workplace for members of the privileged group e.g. preferential job placements for women 
• discriminated against the targeted group in educational matters and in the workplace 
• perverted the justice system so that members of the targeted group were easily discriminated against in the law e.g. in family courts
• arranged matters so that accusers from the privileged group could be shielded by anonymity in the courtroom e.g. in sex-assault cases. 
• arranged matters so that defendants from the targeted group had to ‘prove’ their innocence e.g. in sex-assault and domestic violence cases
• arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define what, legally, was to be deemed ‘a crime’, e.g. where nowadays the ‘feelings’ of women rather than the behaviours of men are the determinants of what constitutes ‘a crime’
• arranged matters so that members of the privileged group could capriciously define how the law was to view certain matters e.g. a fetus inside a woman can now be deemed by her - at her whim - to be a worthless piece of tissue or a prospective baby - with all the ramifications of this - regardless of how the father might feel about it all (also sexual harassment, etc.) 
• arranged matters so that the law punished members of the targeted group more severely than members of the privileged group for the very same crime e.g. in domestic violence and murder cases. 
• arranged matters so that members of the targeted group were made responsible for the choices and behaviours of members of the privileged group e.g. in paternity fraud cases where duped fathers still have to pay child support
• arranged matters so that members of the privileged group who harmed, or even murdered, members of the targeted group were shown undue leniency - and were often actually applauded for their actions
• arranged matters so that the law punished members of the targeted group severely for even trivial offences, e.g. domestic violence, sexual harassment
• arranged matters so that members of the privileged group earned a right to the property of members of the targeted group for no other reason than that they were members of the privileged group e.g. alimony, child custody. 
• arranged matters so that certain speech or attitudes directed against the privileged group were criminalised e.g. biased ‘hate speech’ laws.
• punished those who protested against the prevailing ideology; e.g. for being politically-incorrect.
• effectively controlled the mainstream media and the academic institutions and arranged for them to present a dishonest and dishonourable point of view in support of their ideology
• consistently highlighted and exaggerated the achievements and the suffering of the privileged group while downplaying the achievements and the suffering of the targeted group
• ran government-funded educational courses in universities (e.g. Women’s Studies, Title IX) and in schools to promote the privileged group at the expense of the targeted group. 
• persisted in a long term campaign of hatred toward the targeted group, e.g. “A women needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” “Men think about sex every 15 seconds.”

Bar the heavy violence and the gas chambers - which came towards the end of the Nazis hold on power - feminism and early Nazism are rather similar.

(source)

And with regards to the Gas Chambers... Have you ever noticed how popular The Female Man is, even now, still getting new editions out, still preaching the extermination of all men, nary a critical word from Feminists anywhere... a book that, if you substitute 'Jew' for 'Man', would perfectly fit into Hitler's Final Solution?

The Duluth Model of Misandry

Western Australia has a helpline for women to report being a victim, and a line for men to confess their crimes against women. Why?

It's because of something called the Duluth Model. It is commonly used as the basis of government legislation and by 'charities' run by Feminists as their propaganda wing.

For example:

White Ribbon https://archive.is/IBxdl

archived 19 Oct 2015 13:07:17 UTC from https://www.facebook.com/whiteribbonaustralia/photos/a.10150274954304242.350135.134814999241/10153559814279242/?type=3&permPage=1#

If you never heard of the Duluth Model, this is their page.

For more info, see Duluth and the VAWA: "Power and Control
(Screenshots were taken at the time; unfortunately the archiving tool wasn't available then.)

Click images to enlarge.

It's the official policy used by most, perhaps all, feminist groups, which holds all domestic abuse to be the fault of men, and only women and children to be their victims.

Apparently lesbians and gay men do not exist in their reality?

The man is always the perp,

the woman or the child - usually a girl -  the victim.

"Prioritizes the voices and experiences of women who experience battering in the creation of those policies and procedures.

Believes that battering is a pattern of actions used to intentionally control or dominate an intimate partner and actively works to change societal conditions that support men’s use of tactics of power and control over women."

I screenshotted it just in case it was changed to hide the misandry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model

The Duluth Model or Domestic Abuse Intervention Project is a program developed to reduce domestic violence against women. The program was largely founded by social activist Ellen Pence.

The Duluth Model is based on a "violence is patriarchal" model. The model focuses solely on the men's use of violence in abusive relationships, rather than on the behavior of all parties concerned. This helps the men to focus on changing their personal behavior in order to be nonviolent in any relationship.

(Note: as of 10/10/2015, the wikipedia definition has been altered. Feminists have been caught doing 'social hacks' on wikipedia to re-align it to their agenda.

There was no archiving ability for wikipedia when i wrote this and I had no idea I would even need to screen-shot it - the encyclopedia "for the people" became the encyclopedia "that repeats Feminist propaganda".

Nevertheless, if you look at the edit history, you will see this was the agreed definition for years - https://reference.avoiceformen.com/wiki/Duluth_Model is another source)

So what are it's key assumptions?

1) DV IS ALWAYS MALE PERP ON FEMALE VICTIM. Of course, countries like Australia that use it will be extremely biased against men. It would be a contradiction in terms, to that mindset, to examine a female perp, or a male victim.

2) The PATRIARCHY must exist. Faith in this is essential.

Who proved the existence of the PATRIARCHY? Was it Newton, in 1742? Maybe Einstein did it around WW2?

No-one did. It's true because it's true because it's true. It's a religious belief that has the guise of a fact.

3) DV occurs because men are wicked, but they can be corrected.

Did Ellen Pence just not know what she was doing was wrong?

"In many ways, we turned a blind eye to many women’s use of violence, their drug use and alcoholism, and their often harsh and violent treatment of their own children."

Reference: 10 Pence E. Some thoughts on philosophy. In Shepard M and Pence E (eds.): Coordinating Community Responses to Domestic Violence: Lessons from Duluth and Beyond. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage Publishers, 1999, p. 30.

So she knew - but it was an inconvenient truth. It was erased.

So what happens when men get a proper help-line?

Almost half the callers to Papua New Guinea's new domestic violence hotline men, operators say

30 Sep 2015 10:06:55 UTC

Huh. Didn't see that comin'!

https://archive.is/rAG5m webpage capture saved from   http://www.domesticviolence.nsw.gov.au/publications

17 Oct 2015 09:34:08 UTC

This is the nsw official website for domestic violence matters.

See if you can spot the group that they happen to overlook...
There are publications on all formsof domestic violence, including specific publications for Aboriginal women, culturally and linguistically diverse women, older women, younger women, women with disabilityand domestic violence service providers.

If you would like your organisation’s publication linked to this page, please contact Women NSW, at womennsw@moh.health.nsw.gov.au

What do you mean you are not a woman? What else can you be?

I have to laugh at this.

https://archive.is/83Y02 saved from http://www.domesticviolence.nsw.gov.au/get-help/accommodation 17 Oct 2015 09:54:16 UTC

Emergency accommodation

If you need emergency accommodation in NSW because of domestic and family violence, contact the 24hr Domestic Violence Line on 1800 65 64 63. They can refer you to services in your area.

That line is for women only. But fear not, I'm sure there's something here for men?

You can also call Link2home on 1800 152 152. Link2home is a state-wide information and referral service and they can refer you to Specialist Homelessness Services that support women and children who are escaping domestic and family violence support services.

So... still nothing for men? Surely they will have it later!

Men

Men who are afraid to leave a violent relationship because they have nowhere to go can contact the Mensline 24 hours a day 7 days a week on 1300 78 99 78. They’ll help you with advice and information about your options.

Wow-whee! That sounds promising, doesn't it! Feminism IS equality, after all! Yes, Feminists do care about men...

Right?

What do they link Mensline to?

http://www.menslineaus.org.au/

Mens Line of Fashion in Australia

Fashion and Beauty for Men

Male Grooming for the Australian in need.

Men are beginning to enjoy looking their best, wanting to look attractive is no longer a social crime and if there are products on the market to help you catch a lovely woman with your glowing skin and pearly whites then who are we to say no?

Yup. If you men need help, they can provide you with a collection of beauty tips! Yay!!!

Because you are going to need a good make-up job to cover up the scars she'll give you...


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article3326829.ece

Related Stories:

1. Duluth and the VAWA: "Power and Control"
2. Where Are All These Abused Men?
3. The pain of Aboriginal men abused by their women
4. 70% of unprovoked domestic violence is by women
5. Duluth Model buries key facts on domestic violence (by Erin Pizzey)
6. A lesbian woman is killed by her girlfriend in Chile and FEMINISTS BLAME THE "PATRIARCHAL CULTURE" (I can't verify this as I don't speak the source language)

A genderation gap

They sat together, discussing the weekly newspaper. It was a brilliant day, just a little too hot, a little too early in the season, which was another record set in decades of records broken for heatwaves and wild weather.. he had never thought he would miss the gentle dank rains of his childhood here.

"It's like what you say those Feminists do."

He wasn't quite sure where that had come from. Sometimes she seemed to be having a conversation with someone else, or picking up from where they had been years ago. She was far more lucid during the day, but even so, he knew she was slipping, and there was less time left than he cared to think about.

He looked over the articles he had been reading out to her. Which had triggered this off? Should he ask? She could get terribly upset if she was reminded of her problem, or suspected him of pussyfooting around her... bit of a catch-22, sometimes.

Oh, right. He had been reading out the story of a meeting by MRAs, which had been attacked by a group of Feminists. Despite being filmed, the police wouldn't intervene, except when the men involved started fighting back.. and even then it was just to arrest the men.

"They really did do this, Mum. See, it's in the paper.."

"Oh, you can't believe everything you read!"

"Mum, it's everywhere. The group says they had to defend themselves against anti-feminist attacks.. they are quite open about what they've done".

"It's that bloody Rupert Murdoch!"

"He's dead, Mum. The Murdochs don't own papers anymore, they're strictly blogotainment... "

She interrupted: "He was always making up those lies!" Her face was flushed and he realised he had better calm her down in a hurry. She could have another stroke, or worse..

"Never mind that, Mum.. what about I get you an iced tea?"

"Bloody lies! About that bomb! I never planted a bomb!"

He walked quickly to the counter, not wanting to hear any more.

"What... what is she talking about?" he thought, horrified. He remembered the cell they had been in as a child, and the looks the women used to give him. They were not friendly looks. They didn't ... like... men.. but he was tolerated as a small child. He didn't look enough like the enemy. Not yet.

He tried to think about a bombing. There had been that attempt on Malcolm Frasier. Wasn't that from Amanda Marga or ... well, some name like that?

They had denied it, but had hung nevertheless. Treason was still a capital offense, back then, although he was pretty sure it was life imprisonment instead now.

Damn, it was a woman at the counter.... don't look longer than 8 seconds, that's looking intently. Three years at Her Majesty's Pleasure, which mostly involved involuntary sodomy. Her Majesty, Queen Dianna. One sadistic bitch.

He looked at the menu, and grabbed his wallet. If he looked at her hands, did that count? Best to put the money on the counter.

The order blurted, change returned (only nearly dropped this time, it's not easy if you can't see it), and little number received... his hand was shaking a little. He would have loved a coffee too, but he was nervous enough as it was.

Could she have done it?

No surely not.. but they could have. Those women with hate in their hearts, the books of gendercide lining their shelves; they dreamt of violent revolution and joked of the screams of men... bathing in male tears, they called it. That was just talk, wasn't it?

Just talk. Just talking about opposing feminism was a hatecrime now.

Suddenly he wished he knew how to build a bomb himself.

He pushed that thought down.

She'd fallen asleep, face slack against the wall. He'd wake her when the tea arrived. He slipped on his reflective sunglasses so no woman could accuse him of male gazing, and stared at the sky. It was blue, empty of the merest hint of cloud, but somehow he knew something dark and ugly was blowing from the south.

MRAs and Feminists are just as bad as each other?

One accusation is that MRAs are misogynistic.

Looking at the

Canadian Association for Equality

Umm, yeah, so much hatred... overpowering... me.



There's zero. Zip. Feminism <> female. Hating Feminism has nothing to do with hating females.

Unless  Karen Straughan hates herself? I suppose that's possible. I haven't seen anything like that on any video but I haven't seen all of them.

Feel free to watch and find her out, and chat with her. She's pretty reasonable, and unlikely to call you a rapist, or even a rape apologist, just because you disagree with her. Unlike some feminists. "Even if you’ve never raped anybody before, you’ve got the consciousness of a rapist, and you’re part of the problem." 

What about the shouty dude, The Amazing Atheist?

For all his bluster, I'm not sure he really hates anything, but i suppose it's possible. Can you find anything he says that hates women specifically? Well, it might be difficult because a lot of his were taken down after an attack by a feminist group.

Because feminist groups do that openly. They even got the BBC involved.

What does misogyny mean? According to MRAs, it means this.






What does misandry mean? According to Feminism, it means this.

It's all about hatred.

Well, do men laugh at women getting castrated? Are there Hollywood movies about women getting punched in the tits and kicked in the clit? Is that a punchline... ever?



What about books? There's feminist literature like "The Female Man", with many positive reviews that claim it's a feminist literary work, and which also advocates the extermination of all males. Even male apes are raped for entertainment.

What about male feminists? Are they misandrystic? Does the use of rape slander against opponents count?

And MRAs disrupt meetings of feminists, right? We stand outside with loudspeakers? Trigger fire alarms? Harangue them afterwards?

So where's the equivalent?

Both sides at fault, right? Right?

Tell me when men do this and get away with it.